[TenTec] Future Radios - Knobs!

Mon Nov 3 12:05:19 EST 2014

Essentially, yes.  I have the left knob defined as the multi knob and 
you can push any button to change its function.  The center and large 
right knob are normally fixed to one function each but again you can 
easily change them.  But only the left knob can be changed via one of 
the 9 buttons.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com

On 11/3/2014 11:20 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
> Carl,
>
> Can you take one knob, then assign two functions to it (i.e. AF Gain and RF
> Gain) and then using a push button, toggle back and forth?
>
> This would enable getting by with fewer knobs.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
> Moreschi
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 5:07 PM
> To: tsm1 at tmcom.com; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Future Radios - Knobs!
>
> We have the knob device already.  See Woodbox radio's Tmate 2.  It has 3
> knobs and 9 buttons, is a USB device and my software lets you program the
> knobs and buttons to do anything you want.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
>
> On 11/3/2014 10:59 AM, Tom Mandera wrote:
>> We already have CI-V and a few other variations of the same thing.
>>
>> A single standard would be fantastic to opening up a new market..
>>
>> we have SDR.  They require a computer.  Computers no longer have knobs
>> like some of us prefer, but we have a GUI with a picture of a knob or
>> a slider and a mouse to turn it.
>>
>> Step 1) we need a USB "VFO" (hmm.. perhaps we embrace "gaming controllers"
>> with analog inputs - or a steering wheel controller from a driving
>> game - there's your big VFO knob!) and then some additional rotary
>> encoder inputs for volume, RF-gain, and so forth.
>>
>> Plug multiple "USB knobs" together (gang them) to make a console.
>>
>> Lock each knob to an "input" to the SDR software so you can still use
>> the mouse, or you can spin the knob.
>>
>> Set it up with the computer, then hide the computer behind the desk
>> and pretend it isn't there.
>>
>> ..because once the inputs are solved, the next evolution is something
>> that resembles a metal enclosure with a bunch of the "USB knobs"
>> ganged together, with a Raspberry Pi tucked in the back.
>>
>> Now you can pretend there's no computer in the mix.
>>
>> If we had a single standard for rig control (CI-V and whatever the
>> other options are) you have a single product that could be used on
>> multiple radios.
>>
>> Need a remote VFO for your Orion?  Here you go.
>>
>> Like that K3 but hate the small box and lack of knobs?  Here you go.
>>
>> Want to try a Flex but can't stand the absence of knobs entirely?
>> Here you go.
>>
>>
>> What's the difference between a TenTec Pegasus and a TenTec Jupiter?
>>
>>
>> You could try all of this with a micro-controller, but micro-computers
>> are cheap enough and you can do it as an incremental solution to prove
>> it out before you commit.
>>
>> -Tom
>> KE7VUX
>> TT Scout
>> TT Paragon II 586
>> TT Omni IV+
>>
>>> Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2014 18:02:17 -0500
>>> From: TT fan<jrichards at k8jhr.com>
>>> To: n4py3 at earthlink.net, 	Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>> 	<tentec at contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future
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>>>
>>> Exactly Carl.
>>>
>>> That was Rick's initial point  and it still valid.  Perhaps the take
>>> away point from this thread is what he said first, that radios of the
>>> future may be more computer based, but we may see more and varied
>>> forms of knobs and controls added in various formats
>>> and layouts.   Based on his vision, I can imagine buying an SDR
>>> from Company A,  and a separate interface of some kind from Company B
>>> or maybe from Company C to interface with the
>>> computer.   Perhaps a new business model is in store... SDRs
>>> from one mfr and various interfaces from multiple mfrs.
>>>
>>> We see this in computer recording products.   One purchases a
>>> computer,  and then selects two things:   A)  a preferred software
>>> package,  and B)  a preferred hardware recording surface (console) as
>>> a physical interface with knobs and buttons.  Perhaps such
>>> a business model would suit future radio sales.    Under this scenario,
>>> there would be multiple Woodbox T products... one with one knob
>>> and X buttons,   another with two knobs and Y buttons, and even
>>> a third with a big knob, three or four smaller knobs, and XX buttons,
>>> and it would compete with similar products from other companies.
>>>
>>> This is what I took from Rick's first point and I think it is
>>> entirely consistent with your statements, below.  And I think it
>>> would work.
>>>
>>> Picture buying a remote rig like a K3 from Elecraft, but buying an
>>> operating head from TT,  or a black box Eagle from TT, and a remote
>>> head designed and manufactured by YOU and JERRY H
>>> with your programming, and his build design.   I think TT was
>>> thinking this very sort of thing when it came out with the Arduino
>>> based kits.   It makes a black box starter unit, and hams invent
>>> all the rest.
>>>
>>> ================ K8JHR ================
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