[TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 143, Issue 43

John Mendenhall via TenTec tentec at contesting.com
Thu Nov 27 13:00:26 EST 2014


Open up and do a visual inspection. Try different ant port. Put 50 ohm dummy load on antenna ports and ant analyzer on input and check. 73 john

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>   1. Selling my Ten Tec RX320 $240 includes USA postage. (Katz Ajamas)
>   2. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter - (Richards)
>   3. Re: Selling my Ten Tec RX320 $240 includes USA postage. (Richards)
>   4. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
>      (Carl Moreschi)
>   5. 238 Tuner Died (john brown)
>   6. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (RDStraw)
>   7. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (RDStraw)
>   8. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (RDStraw)
>   9. Re: 238 Tuner Died (Stuart Rohre)
>  10. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
>      (Ron Notarius W3WN)
>  11. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Toby Pennington)
>  12. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter - (Richards)
>  13. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Richards)
>  14. Re: Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter - (Richards)
>  15. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Barry N1EU)
>  16. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Richards)
>  17. Re: Used Orion 565 Prices (Al Gulseth)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 12:22:28 -0500
> From: Katz Ajamas <ajamas.rn at gmail.com>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Selling my Ten Tec RX320 $240 includes USA postage.
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> Works fine. Not modified. :Looks good. Radio, wall wart, and telescopic
> antenna only.
> 
> Manuals and control software at Ten Tec web site.
> Sparkfun Electronics had a nice USB to RS232 adapter.
> 
> If unfamiliar, the RX320 is a complete receiver that does not have a
> control panel. It is controlled by way of commands sent serially.
> 
> 73,
> -Bob
> AH7I
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:12:51 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com>
> To: Clayton Brantley <clayton_n4ev at yahoo.com>,    Discussion of Ten-Tec
>    Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <54764253.5020209 at k8jhr.com>
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> Thanks, guys... a friend of mine says he is sour on TT gear because they 
> abandoned the Pegasus and the Jupiter has a different command set, but I 
> think he is mistaken - Carl hits the nail on the head, as usual, with 
> the fact some front panel commands are more limited -- shoot, the Omni 
> VII is "supposed" to be similarly limited in front panel "radio mode" - 
> but I am darned if I have ever found one that Carl cannot control with 
> the Pegasus Plus program.  If there is one, I have never needed it.  But 
> TT says the "radio mode" does not provide commands for every command or 
> menu setting, so I get all that.
> 
> I am curious, Carl,... just what Omni VII controls are NOT available in 
> "radio mode?"
> 
> ---------------------- K8JHr  -----------------------------------
> 
>> On 11/25/2014 7:49 PM, Clayton Brantley via TenTec wrote:
>> To put into simple terms, a Jupiter is a Pegasus with knobs. They do use the same command set and asa matter of fact,
> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:20:28 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Selling my Ten Tec RX320 $240 includes USA
>    postage.
> Message-ID: <5476441C.1050601 at k8jhr.com>
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> Parenthetically, those little receivers make a swell second receiver if 
> you use N4PY software.  You use the band scope window with the RX320 and 
> click on the "blips" to tune tune both rigs simultaneously - like a 
> panadapter, but I find it is easier to tune using the N4PY band scope 
> than some of the official panadapter programs NaP3 or the like - they 
> jump around a lot, and the other is stable and static.
> 
> Just my take...
> 
> ----------------------------  K8JHR ------------------------------
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 12:22 PM, Katz Ajamas wrote:
>> If unfamiliar, the RX320 is a complete receiver that does not have a
>> control panel. It is controlled by way of commands sent serially.
> =----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:20:49 -0500
> From: Carl Moreschi <n4py3 at earthlink.net>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <54764431.3010506 at earthlink.net>
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> You can't set the transmit power level, you can't change to accessory 
> input for digital modes, and you can't put the radio in transmit mode 
> from software.  There may be more but just looking at my program setup 
> for Omni VII front panel mode, that's what I see is missing.
> 
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 4:12 PM, Richards wrote:
>> Thanks, guys... a friend of mine says he is sour on TT gear because they
>> abandoned the Pegasus and the Jupiter has a different command set, but I
>> think he is mistaken - Carl hits the nail on the head, as usual, with
>> the fact some front panel commands are more limited -- shoot, the Omni
>> VII is "supposed" to be similarly limited in front panel "radio mode" -
>> but I am darned if I have ever found one that Carl cannot control with
>> the Pegasus Plus program. If there is one, I have never needed it. But
>> TT says the "radio mode" does not provide commands for every command or
>> menu setting, so I get all that.
>> 
>> I am curious, Carl,... just what Omni VII controls are NOT available in
>> "radio mode?"
>> 
>> ---------------------- K8JHr -----------------------------------
>> 
>>> On 11/25/2014 7:49 PM, Clayton Brantley via TenTec wrote:
>>> To put into simple terms, a Jupiter is a Pegasus with knobs. They do
>>> use the same command set and asa matter of fact,
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:32:01 -0500
> From: john brown <n2ydf at hotmail.com>
> To: "tentec at contesting.com" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Cc: n2ydf at hotmail.com
> Subject: [TenTec] 238 Tuner Died
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> Sent from my iPad     Hi everyone, and thanks for your assistance in advance. Tuner has been working perfectly. Winter snow storm showed up, (Buffalo NY area) Tuner will not tune at all. Very limited change in swr anywhere 10 -160. Also very limited change any where, using Capacitor tuning, Hi Z or Lo Z positions or any setting on the Inductor. It almost acts like the positions are bypassed. Antenna is a 160 meter loop  525ft with a 4 to 1 Balun. It has been performing well for a year or more. If I eliminate the 238 Tuner and use my Orion II, Ft 1000, or Ts-2000 they will all tune the loop alone,or with my ldg at 600 tuner. However the 238 has always allowed me to tune the antenna flat. Looking for ideas on what might have happened or broke. Thanks again for any help. I mainly read the list,and really enjoy the information everyone shares. I have found answers here before and hope to find more in the future.  73 John, N2YDF, Freedom N.Y.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:04:47 -0800
> From: "RDStraw" <RDStraw at comcast.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
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> Thanks, Barry.
> 73, Dean, N6BV
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
>> N1EU
>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 3:43 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>> 
>> I'd say $1800
>> 
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM, RDStraw <RDStraw at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the going price for an original Orion 565 in excellent
>>> condition, with optional built-in antenna tuner, cooling fan, and 600
>>> Hz roofing crystal filter?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Dean, N6BV
>>> RDStraw at comcast.net
>>> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:05:28 -0800
> From: "RDStraw" <RDStraw at comcast.net>
> To: <ac5aa at ac5aa.com>,    "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'"
>    <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
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> Thanks, Duane.
> 73, Dean, N6BV
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Duane
>> Calvin
>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 4:24 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>> 
>> Mine sold for either $1600 or $1650, and I paid shipping.  FWIW.
>> 
>>    73, Duane
>> 
>> Duane Calvin, AC5AA
>> Austin, Texas
>> www.ac5aa.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry
>> N1EU
>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 5:43 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>> 
>> I'd say $1800
>> 
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM, RDStraw <RDStraw at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is the going price for an original Orion 565 in excellent
>>> condition, with optional built-in antenna tuner, cooling fan, and 600
>>> Hz roofing crystal filter?
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Dean, N6BV
>>> RDStraw at comcast.net
>>> 
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> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 14:07:14 -0800
> From: "RDStraw" <RDStraw at comcast.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
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> Thanks, Toby:
> 
> At N6RO, where I operate in multi-multis, we standardized on the K3. My
> Orion kind of stood out from the K3 crowd, and it worked very well, equal to
> the K3 in most things. 
> 
> But the Orion required some operator training/retraining to get things just
> right. That's why I'm getting ready to sell the Orion and get another K3. I
> hadn't used it for some time and when I just recently plugged it in I got an
> error message that the battery needed replacing. I think I'll list it for
> $1500, as is. Somebody else can replace the battery. I'll also throw in a
> 12V-40 ampere linear power supply too. No switching supply noise with that
> monster!
> 
> 73, Dean, N6BV
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Toby
>> Pennington
>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:33 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>> 
>> More like $1500    Toby K4NH
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/22/2014 6:42 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>> I'd say $1800
>>> 
>>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM, RDStraw <RDStraw at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What is the going price for an original Orion 565 in excellent
>>>> condition, with optional built-in antenna tuner, cooling fan, and 600
>>>> Hz roofing crystal filter?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks, Dean, N6BV
>>>> RDStraw at comcast.net
>>>> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:51:32 -0600
> From: Stuart Rohre <rohre at arlut.utexas.edu>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 238 Tuner Died
> Message-ID: <54766784.1020605 at arlut.utexas.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Very likely the Tuner was hooked up to the antennas and endured a build 
> up of wind or snow static charges, which took out the diodes that sense 
> SWR.  Check those for shorts or opens first.  Is the antenna(s) coated 
> in ice?  You sure the antennas are intact at the feedpoints?  (In high 
> winds, we often lose the club G5RV connection to one side or the other.)
> The weight of the cable choke ferrite is just too much for the flat top 
> in wind storms.
> 
> Good Luck, usually that is all that has happened unless you have some RF 
> amplifier for the SWR/ tuner logic circuits.
> 
> -Stuart Rohre
> Happy Thanksgiving to All!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 22:37:12 -0500
> From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <783EDE5EE01D47279F08B48384BB312B at 85LPJK1>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> 
> The Jupiter was developed as the "Pegasus FP" -- FP for Front Panel.
> 
> A Jupiter IS a Pegasus, but a Pegasus is NOT a Jupiter -- the Jupiter has an
> additional command set when not emulating the Pegasus.
> 
> The Pegasus/Jupiter has an interesting history, you can find out a lot with
> a little bit of searching the Internet.  Especially when you compare it to
> the Kachina 505 DSP rig, which sold new (at the time) for circa $2000 -- the
> Pegasus outperformed it (a point I know some will argue) for about half the
> cost, IIRC.
> 
> 73, ron w3wn
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Richards
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:16 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: [TenTec] Relationship between the Pegasus and Jupiter -
> 
> TT  Equipment Question:
> 
> What is the technical relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter - do 
> they use different command sets?  Are they the same rig, but one has a 
> set of front panel controls?  Is there a previously written explanation 
> of this I can read?
> 
> Thanks.
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 23:18:57 -0500
> From: Toby Pennington <w4cakk at centurylink.net>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <5476A631.9060003 at centurylink.net>
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> 
> Good Luck with the sale.....should sell especially if there are any 
> roofing filters included.   Toby  K4NH
> 
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 5:07 PM, RDStraw wrote:
>> Thanks, Toby:
>> 
>> At N6RO, where I operate in multi-multis, we standardized on the K3. My
>> Orion kind of stood out from the K3 crowd, and it worked very well, equal to
>> the K3 in most things.
>> 
>> But the Orion required some operator training/retraining to get things just
>> right. That's why I'm getting ready to sell the Orion and get another K3. I
>> hadn't used it for some time and when I just recently plugged it in I got an
>> error message that the battery needed replacing. I think I'll list it for
>> $1500, as is. Somebody else can replace the battery. I'll also throw in a
>> 12V-40 ampere linear power supply too. No switching supply noise with that
>> monster!
>> 
>> 73, Dean, N6BV
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Toby
>>> Pennington
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 7:33 PM
>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
>>> 
>>> More like $1500    Toby K4NH
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/22/2014 6:42 PM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>>> I'd say $1800
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 11:33 PM, RDStraw <RDStraw at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is the going price for an original Orion 565 in excellent
>>>>> condition, with optional built-in antenna tuner, cooling fan, and 600
>>>>> Hz roofing crystal filter?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks, Dean, N6BV
>>>>> RDStraw at comcast.net
>>>>> 
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 03:02:02 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com>
> To: n4py3 at earthlink.net,    Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>    <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <5476DA7A.2050702 at k8jhr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Just as I thought... the limitations are few and sufficiently obscure 
> that I don't miss them.
> 
> Thanks for the uptake.
> Happy trails and Happy Holidays, OM.
> 
> ------------------------------------K8JHR ---------------------------
> 
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 4:20 PM, Carl Moreschi wrote:
>> You can't set the transmit power level, you can't change to accessory 
>> input for digital modes, and you can't put the radio in transmit mode 
>> from software.  There may be more but just looking at my program setup 
>> for Omni VII front panel mode, that's what I see is missing.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 03:20:38 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <5476DED6.5090707 at k8jhr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Interesting/  Last year, there was a hue and cry and a gnashing of teeth 
> TenTec's days were numbered because it discontinued the Orion II.   A 
> number of guys expressed dismay and regret they could not longer buy one 
> ... and, now prices have fallen substantially, no one wants one.   Kinda 
> hard to figure, but, then, it does not have to make sense.
> 
> The good news is TT is still in the hunt and writing the next chapter of 
> its history, while the Orion slips into history.  I will lose more on 
> this one item than all other ham gear I have sold put together.   Funny 
> how the market goes.
> 
> 
> Happy trails and  Have A Safe Holiday TenTec fans.
> Maybe Santa will bring you a new Eagle.
> 
> ---------------------------- K8JHR -------------------------------
> 
>> On 11/24/2014 7:54 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>> Yeah, I stand corrected - 565 price has eroded in the past few months.  I
>> observed this with the 566 dropping below
> 
> __________  ___________________________________
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 04:30:41 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Relationship between the  Pegasus and Jupiter -
> Message-ID: <5476EF41.2090307 at k8jhr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
> 
> Thanks for the additional gloss, Ron.    I have read about and have seen 
> photos of the Kachina.   Considering the popularity of the Flex series, 
> it seems the Pegasus was the "Edsel"  of ham radio - a cool design,  
> just a bit ahead of its time in the marketplace !
> 
> Happy Holidays, y'all.
> 
> ---------------------- K8JHR  -------------------------
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/26/2014 10:37 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
>> A Jupiter IS a Pegasus, but a Pegasus is NOT a Jupiter -- the Jupiter has an
>> additional command set when not emulating the Pegasus.
>> 
>> The Pegasus/Jupiter has an interesting history, you can find out a lot with
>> a little bit of searching the Internet.  Especially when you compare it to
>> the Kachina 505
> 
> ________________________________________
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 11:23:37 +0000
> From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID:
>    <CAFmfzDv5W3z1KnfXz59tWocetEh5u55LrVM=G6Du7GykZoVXXw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I will lose more on this one item than all other ham gear I have sold put
>> together.   Funny how the market goes.
> Woith respect, my perspective couldn't be more different.  This one item
> has given me more enjoyment than any other item I've ever brought into the
> shack.  Who's selling what?
> 
> So my Orion has depreciated $1500-$2000 in the 11 years I've owned it.  I
> couldn't care less.  There's honestly no other rig right now at any price
> that I would swap it for.
> 
> 73, Barry N1EU
> 
> 
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> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 06:44:39 -0500
> From: Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
> Message-ID: <54770EA7.5020907 at k8jhr.com>
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> No issue with your take, Barry.    It is a great radio.
> 
> I just remember all the hoopla and chatter about how terrible it was to 
> be discontinued, and how many said they were disappointed because they 
> wanted one, but now, less than a year later, none of them want one.
> 
> Surely that does not diminish their value in the hands of the skilled 
> operator !   ;-)
> 
> Happy days, Barry - always enjoy your stuff.
> 
> ================= JHR ===================
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>> On 11/27/2014 6:23 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>> Woith respect, my perspective couldn't be more different.
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> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2014 07:44:40 -0600
> From: Al Gulseth <wb5jnc at centurytel.net>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Used Orion 565 Prices
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> Just to put it in perspective: how much has automobile depreciation cost you 
> in the past decade? Or how much is a decade old computer item worth now?
> 
> Unless it's very rare or desirable, even a "collectable" (radio or otherwise) 
> usually isn't worth as much as it was new when scaled for inflation.
> 
> Just my $0.02 worth....
> 
> 73, Al
> 
>> On Thu November 27 2014 5:23:37 am Barry N1EU wrote:
>>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Richards <jrichards at k8jhr.com> wrote:
>>> I will lose more on this one item than all other ham gear I have sold
>>> put together.   Funny how the market goes.
>> 
>> Woith respect, my perspective couldn't be more different.  This one item
>> has given me more enjoyment than any other item I've ever brought into the
>> shack.  Who's selling what?
>> 
>> So my Orion has depreciated $1500-$2000 in the 11 years I've owned it.  I
>> couldn't care less.  There's honestly no other rig right now at any price
>> that I would swap it for.
>> 
>> 73, Barry N1EU
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