[TenTec] Modern version of the Tec Tec Corsair - please Ten Tec!

Barry N1EU barry.n1eu at gmail.com
Thu Oct 2 14:11:24 EDT 2014


The upconverting 1st i.f. stage of the Paragon necessitates the use of a
broad roofing filter.  If you're in an environment of very strong s9+
nearby signals (Europe on 40M or in EU/USA during contests), the Paragon
receiver is going to fold.

73, Barry N1EU

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Wade Staggs <tvman1954 at gmail.com> wrote:

> *Hello Rick,*
> *                       Over the last several years, I have found real
> respect for your Facts and Opinion. Could you please expand and explain. I
> know that in Europe, you have a whole different bunch of problems from
> Broadcast Stations but, can you explain just what feature... IF,
> Selectivity or other, where the Paragon falls short? Would a Band Pass
> filter help? I call 4 to 7 HF Nets a week on 80/75 Meters. With the RF Gain
> backed off (( like we ran our Corsair )) and the 1.8 KHZ Filter selected,
> even with Loads of QRM, we can still hear stations that others miss. Even
> to the point that other NCS stations always ask me to relay weak signals
> into the Net. When they know I am on frequency that is. Of course they are
> running mostly KenYaeCom Rigs. My antenna is nothing special. 126 feet of
> Flat Top Dipole with Windows ( 450 ohm ) Line into the tuner. A real Cloud
> Burner (( NVIS )) at about 30 feet high. While I have your attention Rick,
> Thanks for answering my many questions that we would have ask, if others
> had not ask first. Do you wear a Solid Blue Shirt with a Big Yellow S on
> the front?? Do you get your Cape caught in Car Doors? Well. I believe that
> you do. Do they still have Phone Booths for the quick wardrobe changes in
> Germany? *
>
> *                                                 Thanks Rick 73 from
> Wade/KJ4WS*
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Come to Europe Wade, you'll learn the difference (in favor of the
> > Corsairs).
> > Upward conversion struggles here.
> >
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Wade
> > Staggs
> > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 6:15 PM
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Modern version of the Tec Tec Corsair - please Ten
> > Tec!
> >
> > *Good Morning,*
> > *                               While the Corsair and Corsair II are fine
> > radio's. If you really want to split hairs, my Paragon ( 585 ) has
> > everything they have, plus very accurate ( no drift at all ) frequency
> > control.  Don't believe me? Just find someone who owns one and sit down
> in
> > front of the rig. Now engage the 20 Db. pad and turn the RF Gain back
> just
> > a
> > little bit. ( this is on the low bands ) It just seems like a different
> > world. And while I am posting. Why did the Paragon and Paragon II have
> > relatively short production runs? I know about the Dreaded ... PLL Out of
> > Lock ... problem with the 585 but once fixed, they are such Great
> Radio's.
> > Mine was acquired while broken but a thorough re-work of the Major and
> > Minor
> > Loop Boards has turned it into a real Keeper. Almost 6 years now with no
> > failures or issues of any kind. Although about 6 months back we did
> replace
> > all capacitors in the PA enclosure. So, in summary, has anyone used a
> > Paragon ( 585 ) lately ? ? ? And who wants to trade their broken one for
> > something else?  All input about the Paragons receiver
> appreciated.........
> > The Transmitter is Awesome also.*
> >
> > *
> >          73 from Wade/KJ4WS*
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at dj0ip.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > As nice as its audio was, the KWM-2 would not be very good with
> > > today's crowded bands.
> > > The famous "Collins mechanical filter" was not really very good by
> > > today's standards.
> > > A 4-pole crystal filter on 455 kHz is as good or better and of course
> > > you can buy 6 or 8 pole filters now.
> > > And the DSP filters on lower frequencies are even better, sharper, and
> > > have steeper skirts.
> > >
> > > As long as we're dreaming, I wish I had 1960's band conditions again!
> > >
> > > All things considered, it's hard to beat the Corsair with its
> > > combination of good audio and good crystal filters.
> > > Newer radios have better filters but worse audio.
> > >
> > > For my money, the best compromise is the Eagle.
> > >
> > > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Martin Sole
> > > (HS0ZED)
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 11:37 AM
> > > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Modern version of the Tec Tec Corsair - please
> > > Ten Tec!
> > >
> > > I've long liked the analogue radio sound. So far my all time fave,
> > > just for the audio, is a KWM2 with that big 6x4 speaker, something
> > > about that warm sound seems magical. Next up from my current radios
> > > would be my Omni V. Not sure how that might differ from the Corsair
> > > but whilst generally pleasant it's not in the KWM2 league. Then the
> > > Orion 565 and Elecraft K3, bit of a mixed bag these two as they are
> > > both very variable but I've not yet been able to recreate the analogue
> > > sound. I might need to experiment with amplifiers right at the point
> > > the signal becomes analogue. A god analogue audio amp with LTP input
> > > and complementary pair output in discrete silicon feeding a big
> speaker,
> > might sound very different.
> > >
> > > The TS940 had good audio too but for me about the same as the Omni V
> > >
> > > Martin, HS0ZED
> > >
> > >
> > > On 02/10/2014 12:03, Barry N1EU wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:12 PM, John Farler <k4avx1 at windstream.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I have a Corsair II with the DDS VFO, which works nicely.  I think
> > > >> it's a single conversion though.
> > > >
> > > > Normally it converts to 9MHz, then to 6.3MHz, and then back to 9MHz,
> > > > unless you bypass the 6.3MHz PBT i.f. which can be done fairly
> > > > easily but you lose PBT and narrow filters and don't gain much.
> > > >
> > > > I agree on the CAT comment.  I always dreamed of adding a CAT port
> > > > to the DDS cpu firmware.
> > > >
> > > > 73, Barry N1EU
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