[TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 148, Issue 7

Paul DeWitte k9ot at yousq.net
Sat Apr 4 16:56:20 EDT 2015


540 TX audio

I do not know where your drive is set, but if the drive is set too
high it will sound just like you describe. ALC should light on voice
peaks.

Just my $ .02 worth.

Paul K9OT

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>    1. Re: RKR Designs LLC purchases (Ben Antanaitis - WB2RHM)
>    2. Re: Fw: Power down on Omni VI plus (Stuart Rohre)
>    3. Re: RKR Designs LLC purchases (Jose F Ballester)
>    4. Re: [Ten-Tec-Omni-VII] Re: RKR Designs LLC        purchases
>       Alpha/Ten-Tec from RF     Concepts (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
>    5. 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion (Bill Acito)
>    6. Re: 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion (Jim Brown)
>    7. Re: 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
>    8. Re: 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion (Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP)
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> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 14:38:05 -0400
> From: Ben Antanaitis - WB2RHM <wb2rhm at wb2rhm.com>
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> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RKR Designs LLC purchases
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> At 14:19 4/3/2015, you wrote:
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> It may just a case of wanting the merged company to be governed under
> only the Business laws of Colorado.  Maybe they get a state tax break
> 'hand-out'.
>
> Ben - WB2RHM
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>>Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 13:01:48 -0500
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>>I am not willing to dig into what are the differences between
>>Colorado tax codes and Tennessee tax codes, but if one applies
>>"Occam's razor"... The simplest explanation is often the correct one
>>and unless I hear they went belly up it's not really relevant to my world...
>>73, Brian KA9EGW
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> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 13:38:16 -0500
> From: Stuart Rohre <rohre at arlut.utexas.edu>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Fw: Power down on Omni VI plus
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> Certainly relays can be a failure point. Sealed relays in modern rigs
> may still arc or oxidize at the contacts, and I have even seen relays
> that were not seated to the solder pads fully, before the board was
> soldered.  That was in a Kenwood, but could happen to any relay equipped
> device.
>
> I also suggested the power buses as a point to check for solder problem
> joints, and electrolytics that maybe only have a 20 year lifetime.
>
> Stuart Rohre
> K5KVH
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> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 14:59:08 -0400
> From: Jose F Ballester <jfballester at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [TenTec] RKR Designs LLC purchases
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> I hope my pessimism is just that.   Agree that even if the transaction is only on the surface, a transfer of assets (of course it depends which ones) there may be valid financial reasons for choosing it, but in my experience, in general,it just doesn?t ring the right bell.  Anyway, let?s hope that the ?new? owners can and will invest in new products because in my book their product line is quickly falling behind the curve.
>
> 73 de Pepe WP3HW
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> On Apr 3, 2015, at 2:38 PM, Ben Antanaitis - WB2RHM <wb2rhm at wb2rhm.com> wrote:
>
> At 14:19 4/3/2015, you wrote:
>
> It may just a case of wanting the merged company to be governed under only the Business laws of Colorado.  Maybe they get a state tax break 'hand-out'.
>
> Ben - WB2RHM
>
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>> I am not willing to dig into what are the differences between Colorado tax codes and Tennessee tax codes, but if one applies "Occam's razor"... The simplest explanation is often the correct one and unless I hear they went belly up it's not really relevant to my world...
>> 73, Brian KA9EGW
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> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:16:28 +0200
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
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> Congratulations Brian!
> Yours was the best response I have read yet.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
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> I am not willing to dig into what are the differences between Colorado tax
> codes and Tennessee tax codes, but if one applies "Occam's razor"... The
> simplest explanation is often the correct one and unless I hear they went
> belly up it's not really relevant to my world...
> 73, Brian KA9EGW
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> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 01:41:46 -0400
> From: Bill Acito <w1pa at hotmail.com>
> To: "TenTec at contesting.com" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion
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> My restoration project continues...
> My project 540 has great receive audio, but very distorted transmit audio, as if it was being overdriven. Power out into a dummy loadlooks good, but on another receiver I can hear the audio peaks of myvoice but the audio itself sounds like hash, severely distorted -- like modulated static.I find that if I move the mic away from my mouth 12-18 inches andspeak low the audio sounds acceptable on the other receiver.
> I have tried a 700 hand mic and a high z Turner 350C with no difference.
> What boards should I be looking at?  the SSB generator? Finals?
> Bill  W1PA
>
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> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 23:59:11 -0700
> From: Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion
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> On Fri,4/3/2015 10:41 PM, Bill Acito wrote:
>> I find that if I move the mic away from my mouth 12-18 inches andspeak low the audio sounds acceptable on the other receiver.
>
> Sounds like nothing more than the mic gain turned up way too high. I
> don't know the 540, but the manual should tell you where the mic gain is.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 10:11:09 +0200
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion
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> Bill,
>
> The 540 has an interesting feature.
> You can unplug the coax coming from the driver and plug it directly into the
> Low Pass Filter. (Of course 'after' unplugging the coax from the finals from
> the LPF board).
>
> When you do this, you have a 5w QRP radio.
>
> Try that.  This will show you immediately if the trouble is in the final amp
> or in one of the earlier stages.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
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> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:42 AM
> To: TenTec at contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion
>
>
> My restoration project continues...
> My project 540 has great receive audio, but very distorted transmit audio,
> as if it was being overdriven. Power out into a dummy loadlooks good, but on
> another receiver I can hear the audio peaks of myvoice but the audio itself
> sounds like hash, severely distorted -- like modulated static.I find that if
> I move the mic away from my mouth 12-18 inches andspeak low the audio sounds
> acceptable on the other receiver.
> I have tried a 700 hand mic and a high z Turner 350C with no difference.
> What boards should I be looking at?  the SSB generator? Finals?
> Bill  W1PA
>
>
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> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 10:25:37 +0200
> From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion
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> Hmmm, I guess the instructions below weren't very clear.
>
> The TX driver board's output is over a piece of RG-174 coax with an RCA
> Phono plug on the end.  It plugs into the input of the final amp (PA) board.
>
> The PA's output is also a coax with an RCA Phono plug and it plugs into the
> input of the LPF board.
>
> Simply unplug the PA's plug from the LPF board and tape it with electrical
> tape so that it cannot create a short circuit, then unplug the driver cable
> from the input of the PA and plug it directly into the LPF board.
>
> Just in case someone decides to use the radio like this for an extended
> period of time, you should also unsolder the thick red wire that supplies
> the PA with +13vdc (and tape it).  That way it won't draw idle current when
> in TX.
>
> This actually makes a very nice QRP transceiver!
>
> However, most likely as Jim pointed out, the problem is overdriven audio.
> Does the mic gain have any effect on the output power at all?
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rick -
> DJ0IP / NJ0IP
> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 10:11 AM
> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion
>
> Bill,
>
> The 540 has an interesting feature.
> You can unplug the coax coming from the driver and plug it directly into the
> Low Pass Filter. (Of course 'after' unplugging the coax from the finals from
> the LPF board).
>
> When you do this, you have a 5w QRP radio.
>
> Try that.  This will show you immediately if the trouble is in the final amp
> or in one of the earlier stages.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bill Acito
> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 7:42 AM
> To: TenTec at contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] 540/Triton Transmit Audio Distortion
>
>
> My restoration project continues...
> My project 540 has great receive audio, but very distorted transmit audio,
> as if it was being overdriven. Power out into a dummy loadlooks good, but on
> another receiver I can hear the audio peaks of myvoice but the audio itself
> sounds like hash, severely distorted -- like modulated static.I find that if
> I move the mic away from my mouth 12-18 inches andspeak low the audio sounds
> acceptable on the other receiver.
> I have tried a 700 hand mic and a high z Turner 350C with no difference.
> What boards should I be looking at?  the SSB generator? Finals?
> Bill  W1PA
>
>
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