[TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7

[denton sprague]

this also occurred with the amp bypassed and rig hooked up to dummy load…
guess I shud read my posts 2-3 times before posting them!

On May 24, 2015, at 9:27 AM, denton sprague <denton at oregontrail.net> wrote:

> did that…you are correct with the orion….
> does not occur with the Omni 7 though….
> for the present will just use the external ptt switch.
> 
> On May 24, 2015, at 9:01 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at DJ0IP.de> wrote:
> 
>> Denton,
>> 
>> Turn your mic gain all the way down and try switching with the mic's ptt
>> switch again.
>> Check if it still goes to fault on 160m.
>> I have a hunch that the noise of the switch is applying audio, thus RF power
>> and that is triggering the fault.
>> 
>> Not sure how to fix it but if we can determine that is the cause, then at
>> least we have a starting point and something to work with.
>> 
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of denton
>> sprague
>> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 5:51 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7
>> 
>> An update...went thru the usual when going from barefoot to an
>> amp..connectors, coax check, chokes, grounding, etc.
>> Got it relatively tamed.but I also notice that when using the mic switch on
>> any mic will cause the agc light to come on when switching from transmit to
>> receive.
>> That will cause the amp to go into fault mode on 160.
>> If I use an external ptt switch using the aux cable, this does not occur.
>> I swapped out the Orion for my Omni 7 this am and this problem does not
>> occur.
>> Pin 1 problem? guess could call TT in a few days and see what they say.
>> 
>> On May 23, 2015, at 6:36 AM, denton sprague <denton at oregontrail.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> got the amp yesterday and its up and running.works fb.except for slight
>> glitch on 160 meters..keeps wanting to go into fault mode if anything over
>> 400 watts out to the antenna.
>>> works fb on dummy load though.
>>> antenna is short for 160 so that might be part of the problem.
>>> Is there an interface cable to allow my Orion and/or Omni 7 to allow
>> either rig to select the ale 600's bandpass filters?
>>> I was informed not to interface alc cable between the rig and amp.any 
>>> comments on this? thanks.
>>> 
>>> On May 20, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick at DJ0IP.de> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> With SSB, NONE.
>>>> 
>>>> With CW, well two potential problems.
>>>> The relay in the ALS-600 is very slow - about 20ms on average - 
>>>> despite Ameritron's claim of 15 ms.
>>>> You need to add some time sequencing.
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately the 15mS pre-dit delay is fixed and not adjustable, but 
>>>> it goes a long ways in protecting the relay on the front end.
>>>> 
>>>> You also need to add a couple hundred ms of hang delay.  The OM7 has 
>>>> a menu item where you can do this but by default it is turned off 
>>>> (set to 0).  If my memory serves me right, I believe it adjusts in
>> increments of 50ms.
>>>> It's been 7 or 8 years since I have operated an OM7.
>>>> 
>>>> But as I said, with SSB it's not really an issue, especially when 
>>>> running PTT.
>>>> Even with vox it's not as bad as CW because the voice starts soft and 
>>>> rises, so the initial blast of RF is at low power (unless you 
>>>> sneeze!)
>>>> 
>>>> I had an ALS-600 for a few years and it is a very nice amp.
>>>> If you are serious about CW, Phil Salas, AD5X has two different mods 
>>>> to the relays.  You might want to try one or the other.
>>>> 
>>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
>>>> denton sprague
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:46 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] ALS 600, TT Orion and Omni 7
>>>> 
>>>> Got a used Ameritron ALS 600 coming in the mail this friday. Anyone 
>>>> have any problems running one with either an Orion or Omni 7?
>>>> I plan on driving the amp with no more than 50 watts, primarily on 
>>>> 160 and
>>>> 80 meter ssb.
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