[TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 155, Issue 28

[rick@dj0ip.de]

Noise blankers come in two flavors:
1)  Hardware noise blankers
2)  Software (DSP) noise blankers

The older radios (OM6 and earlier) all had hardware blankers.
So does the Eagle.
The Omni VII and Orion have DSP noise blankers.

It is my understanding that the software blanker can potentially be
implemented to work as well as the old hardware blankers, but in most
radios, most of the OEMs did not do a good enough job of implementing it.
I believe all of the Japanese OEMs and even Ten-Tec and Elecraft got it
wrong, initially.

It was Rob (again) whose persistence in flagging this issue to the two
American vendors, got them to re-think their NB and fix it.  I believe it
was similar with FLEX but as I said, I'm getting old and don't recall if Rob
was involved there or not.  I think he said he told Gerald.  

Unfortunately the Japanese OEMs don't listen to Rob as much as our US OEMs
do.
They don't seem to want to listen to anyone in the field.
It took Yaesu nearly 10 years to implement W8JI's $3 fix to their CW keying
issue that Bob was referring to.
Their FT-1000s polluted our ham bands for 10 years.  Eventually most of the
ones in the field got updated (privately), not by Yaesu.

It will be a tragedy if Ten-Tec goes under.  They have had an excellent
track record of listening to field input.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)



-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of wes Bolin
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 7:59 PM
To: tentec at contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 155, Issue 28

REF:  Noise and noise blankers

I have a Triton IV with the noise blanker.  It takes out pulse noise and
also eliminated static electricity noise from my vertical antenna during
stormy weather last week.

For atmospheric noise, and a neighbor's TV set noise, I use the ANC-4 Noise
Reducer by Timewave.  It was recommended to me by another TenTec owner and
it works great (I have a small outside antenna to pick up noise).  I have
had many QSOs with the ANC-4 "on" that I would not have been able to without
it.

Hope my experience will help others with similar problems.
Wes

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> I need to communicate with someone with experience with the Ten Tec 
> Omni Vi noise blanker. I push the button and rotate the pot with NO 
> apparent change in sound. I am convinced that the noise blanker is not
working.
> Let's us discuss. 73, K5PGW
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> From: Carl Moreschi <n4py3 at earthlink.net>
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> Depending on what type of noise, this can easily be normal.  Noise 
> blankers only work on pulse noise like from an electric motor or 
> electric fence.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
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> On 11/22/2015 10:50 AM, John King via TenTec wrote:
> > I need to communicate with someone with experience with the Ten Tec 
> > Omni
> Vi noise blanker. I push the button and rotate the pot with NO 
> apparent change in sound. I am convinced that the noise blanker is not
working.
> Let's us discuss. 73, K5PGW
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> There is no Noise Blanker button for the Omni VI. Just engage the 
> feature more or less using the pot. If your pushing the button to the 
> left of the NB/SQL your attenuating -20dB.
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> Regards
>
> Rich
> AA6VX
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> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3 at earthlink.net>
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> > Depending on what type of noise, this can easily be normal.  Noise 
> > blankers only work on pulse noise like from an electric motor or 
> > electric fence.
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> > Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > 58 Hogwood Rd
> > Louisburg, NC 27549
> > www.n4py.com
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> > On 11/22/2015 10:50 AM, John King via TenTec wrote:
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> >> I need to communicate with someone with experience with the Ten Tec 
> >> Omni Vi noise blanker. I push the button and rotate the pot with NO 
> >> apparent change in sound. I am convinced that the noise blanker is not
working.
> >> Let's us discuss. 73, K5PGW
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> From: John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com>
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> ?Thanks Carl and Richie. ? I went to the shack and turned the Omni VI 
> on and low and behold there was some impulse noise that sounds like an 
> arc or electrical fence or sign and the blanker worked when advanced to
the right.
> It does not attenuate the 75 meter band noise or rapid line noise 
> which is the S5 to S7 ambient noise there this morning. I think it is 
> working on less rapid impulse noise. I will try the NR DSP button and 
> see if that helps..
> I have had this WONDEFUL Omni VI over 20 years and like it more 
> everyday as compared to my three Icoms and Kenwood TS 2000. It is such 
> an uncomplicated outstanding piece of gear. Its' simplicity and 
> outstanding receiver are the greatest. I think I want another one. 73,
John, K5PGW? ?
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