[TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 155, Issue 28

Carl Moreschi n4py3 at earthlink.net
Sun Nov 22 20:59:15 EST 2015


The Orion has both a hardware noise blanker and a software noise 
blanker.  The hardware noise blanker is very superior and one of the 
best I have seen.

But the very best noise blanker I have ever seen is the software version 
in the Flex 6500.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com

On 11/22/2015 4:19 PM, rick at dj0ip.de wrote:
> Noise blankers come in two flavors:
> 1)  Hardware noise blankers
> 2)  Software (DSP) noise blankers
>
> The older radios (OM6 and earlier) all had hardware blankers.
> So does the Eagle.
> The Omni VII and Orion have DSP noise blankers.
>
> It is my understanding that the software blanker can potentially be
> implemented to work as well as the old hardware blankers, but in most
> radios, most of the OEMs did not do a good enough job of implementing it.
> I believe all of the Japanese OEMs and even Ten-Tec and Elecraft got it
> wrong, initially.
>
> It was Rob (again) whose persistence in flagging this issue to the two
> American vendors, got them to re-think their NB and fix it.  I believe it
> was similar with FLEX but as I said, I'm getting old and don't recall if Rob
> was involved there or not.  I think he said he told Gerald.
>
> Unfortunately the Japanese OEMs don't listen to Rob as much as our US OEMs
> do.
> They don't seem to want to listen to anyone in the field.
> It took Yaesu nearly 10 years to implement W8JI's $3 fix to their CW keying
> issue that Bob was referring to.
> Their FT-1000s polluted our ham bands for 10 years.  Eventually most of the
> ones in the field got updated (privately), not by Yaesu.
>
> It will be a tragedy if Ten-Tec goes under.  They have had an excellent
> track record of listening to field input.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of wes Bolin
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 7:59 PM
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 155, Issue 28
>
> REF:  Noise and noise blankers
>
> I have a Triton IV with the noise blanker.  It takes out pulse noise and
> also eliminated static electricity noise from my vertical antenna during
> stormy weather last week.
>
> For atmospheric noise, and a neighbor's TV set noise, I use the ANC-4 Noise
> Reducer by Timewave.  It was recommended to me by another TenTec owner and
> it works great (I have a small outside antenna to pick up noise).  I have
> had many QSOs with the ANC-4 "on" that I would not have been able to without
> it.
>
> Hope my experience will help others with similar problems.
> Wes
>
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>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 15:50:53 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: John King<k5pgw at yahoo.com>
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>> Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI noise blanker
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>> I need to communicate with someone with experience with the Ten Tec
>> Omni Vi noise blanker. I push the button and rotate the pot with NO
>> apparent change in sound. I am convinced that the noise blanker is not
> working.
>> Let's us discuss. 73, K5PGW
>>
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>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:08:54 -0500
>> From: Carl Moreschi<n4py3 at earthlink.net>
>> To: John King<k5pgw at yahoo.com>,        Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>          <tentec at contesting.com>
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>> Depending on what type of noise, this can easily be normal.  Noise
>> blankers only work on pulse noise like from an electric motor or
>> electric fence.
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>> On 11/22/2015 10:50 AM, John King via TenTec wrote:
>>> I need to communicate with someone with experience with the Ten Tec
>>> Omni
>> Vi noise blanker. I push the button and rotate the pot with NO
>> apparent change in sound. I am convinced that the noise blanker is not
> working.
>> Let's us discuss. 73, K5PGW
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>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 08:16:35 -0800
>> From: Richard Gerardi<qdot22 at gmail.com>
>> To: n4py3 at earthlink.net,        Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
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>> Cc: John King<k5pgw at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI noise blanker
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>> There is no Noise Blanker button for the Omni VI. Just engage the
>> feature more or less using the pot. If your pushing the button to the
>> left of the NB/SQL your attenuating -20dB.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Rich
>> AA6VX
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Carl Moreschi<n4py3 at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Depending on what type of noise, this can easily be normal.  Noise
>>> blankers only work on pulse noise like from an electric motor or
>>> electric fence.
>>>
>>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>>> www.n4py.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/22/2015 10:50 AM, John King via TenTec wrote:
>>>
>>>> I need to communicate with someone with experience with the Ten Tec
>>>> Omni Vi noise blanker. I push the button and rotate the pot with NO
>>>> apparent change in sound. I am convinced that the noise blanker is not
> working.
>>>> Let's us discuss. 73, K5PGW
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>> Richard Gerardi, AA6VX
>> North Santa Barbara County ARES
>> Satellite Amateur Radio Club, W6AB
>> aa6vx at arrl.net
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>> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 16:42:36 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: John King<k5pgw at yahoo.com>
>> To: "tentec at contesting.com"<tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI noise blanker
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>> ?Thanks Carl and Richie. ? I went to the shack and turned the Omni VI
>> on and low and behold there was some impulse noise that sounds like an
>> arc or electrical fence or sign and the blanker worked when advanced to
> the right.
>> It does not attenuate the 75 meter band noise or rapid line noise
>> which is the S5 to S7 ambient noise there this morning. I think it is
>> working on less rapid impulse noise. I will try the NR DSP button and
>> see if that helps..
>> I have had this WONDEFUL Omni VI over 20 years and like it more
>> everyday as compared to my three Icoms and Kenwood TS 2000. It is such
>> an uncomplicated outstanding piece of gear. Its' simplicity and
>> outstanding receiver are the greatest. I think I want another one. 73,
> John, K5PGW? ?
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