[TenTec] OT - Entry Level for boys

[Reed Krenn]

Used Hammarlund HQ-110, Johnson Viking Challenger were my 'entry level'
rigs.

Reed / WW3A

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 1:53 AM, rick at dj0ip.de <Rick at dj0ip.de> wrote:

> Bob, either you are a lot younger than I or you are wrong.
> That was already mid-range.
>
> When I was a boy, entry level was a Heathkit AR-3 or Hallicrafters S-38
> receiver and a DX-20 or DX-35.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bwana Bob
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:32 AM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: 7300 buy back program - Entry Level
>
> Well, isn't there a mid-grade radio between "entry level" and "contest
> grade"?  I consider entry level to be the Alinco or the ICOM IC-718, both
> under $1000.  For $1500, I wouldn't expect a super contest radio, but I
> would expect something better than entry level.  (Ah, when I was a boy,
> entry level was a used Hammarlund receiver and a Heathkit DX-60A).
>
> -Bob WB2VUF
>
>
> On 8/15/2016 2:28 PM, rick at dj0ip.de wrote:
> > In plain English Paul, it overloads MUCH too easily.
> >
> > To prevent that, you have to use a lot of attenuation; here in Europe
> > even more than the radio has built in.
> > Then it does not overload but you can no longer hear the really weak
> > stations.
> >
> > In most day to day operation, this is not a problem.
> > In contests it is.  In its present state, it is not a serious contest
> radio.
> >
> > Icom has replied to this point in writing that it is an entry level
> > radio, not a high end radio.
> >
> > On the bright side, contrary to many of the other Japanese radios
> > shipping today (i.e. 7600 and ALL Yasues), it has a clean transmitter.
> >
> > Icom could fix this radio and potentially make it a great entry level
> > radio but they will probably leave it like that so that users wanting
> > more must pay more for the next higher radio.  "That" was indeed my
> > opinion; the bit on performance is fact.
> >
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > kd3jf.paulgates at gmail.com
> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:47 PM
> > To: k9yc at arrl.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: 7300 buy back program
> >
> > Exactly in plain English what is wrong with the 7300 Paul kw4bd Sent
> > from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 15, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Barry,
> >>
> >> I don't disagree that all mfrs are looking at direct sampling RX, and
> >> I
> > agree that they should be. I'd call that wise investment in R&D. My
> > assessment of the 7300 is that it's a budget level product that was
> > oversold.
> >> The fundamental issue right now with that technology is dynamic range
> >> with
> > the available chips, which are in the right price range because of the
> > volume built for them by cell phones. Guys are making Flex 6700s work
> > in contest superstations because the serious bandpass filtering they
> > would need with any radio acts as an RX preselector, limiting the
> > bandwidth of the spectrum that can overload the A/D. But that won't
> > help in EU or AS, where broadcasters are in the passband of any
> > practical filter on 40M, and there are some high power broadcasters
> > close enough to  20M to make it a problem there too.
> >> I think you've been happy with your ANAN in that regard. Are you
> >> doing
> > anything special to address the dynamic range issue?
> >> 73, Jim K9YC
> >>
> >>> On Mon,8/15/2016 5:22 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> >>> I think dealers and manufacturers have stock piles of ALL superhets,
> >>> not just the 7600.  I think Rick is on the mark that the DEALER is
> >>> simply motivated to move excess 7600 inventory.
> >>>
> >>> What Rick didn't mention is that there's a fresh rumor making the
> >>> rounds that Icom is about to announce a direct sampling SDR
> >>> replacement for the 7600.  That's extra motivation to move 7600
> > inventory.
> >>> The 7300 has changed the game, period.  Icom is sitting pretty.
> >>
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