[TenTec] Pimp My Eagle

Thu Jan 7 12:13:31 EST 2016

A built in antenna analyzer also, please...

> On Jan 7, 2016, at 8:52 AM, rick at dj0ip.de <Rick at DJ0IP.de> wrote:
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> PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD FOCUSED ON THE “EAGLE.”
> 
> (feel free to start a new thread on O7+ or O3)
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> I agree with Brian . . .  let’s talk about radios again.
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> It seems the current tentative plan is:
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> 1)      OM7(+) gets a new front plate and face plate, but not a lot of
> changes
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> 2)      (super) Eagle gets new DSP and _ _ _ _ _ _
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> 3)      Argonaut 6 will more or less resume production unchanged
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> 4)      An O3 is in the making, details unknown
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> 
> I want to make a suggestions about the future Eagle.
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> IMO TEN-TEC made a mistake with the Eagle.
> 
> They tried to address three market segments with one product.
> 
> 1)      A simple easy to use computer for old folks (including me) who
> usually prefer not to even turn the computer on, just because we want to get
> on the radio – but do want high performance.
> 
> 2)      The mobile hf market
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> 3)      The entry level 100w hf transceiver market
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> 
> Result:  Jack of all trades, master of none.
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> If you read the wish list in the Eagle group, since the beginning there were
> clearly representatives of all three groups expressing wishes for
> improvements.  What might benefit one group is often counter-productive for
> the other.
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> If Ten-Tec is to succeed, they need to identify the market segment for each
> product and optimize for it.
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> Of the three segments I have listed above, I believe Ten-Tec’s best chance
> is in no. 1.
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> I don’t think any US based OEM can go big in the entry level segment because
> it is primarily driven by price.
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> I also believe a mobile rig today MUST have a removable front panel.  Sure
> some people don’t mind having the radio occupy the front passenger space,
> but I prefer to keep it for my XYL.  (In fact I have no choice ;-)
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> 
> 
> My wish is for the Super Eagle to focus on number 1 above.
> 
> As such, I can propose some changes:
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> 1)      And most important:  a bigger box.  In all my 15+ years
> participating in Ten-Tec groups, I can’t recall a single instance of anyone
> asking for a smaller box.   Yet ALL OEMs seem to think that’s what we want.
> Lots of important things suffer when you reduce the size of the box.  You
> have less knobs, more menu adjustable items, smaller loud speaker, smaller
> S-Meter, coils are smaller (lower Q), heat sinks are smaller and fans are
> smaller so you have more noise.  Less room for working on the radio, less
> room for back panel jacks (so we must use plugs with 75 pins!).  DON’T NEED
> ANY OF THIS.  I NEED THE FOLLOWING…
> 
> 2)      Larger knobs.  Concentric knobs are only ok if they are large
> enough.
> 
> 3)      Larger S-meter.  Prefer a true meter, but if not, then at least a
> color-coded LED meter.
> 
> 4)      ¼ inch connections for things like key and headphones; 
> 
> 5)      Separate jacks for paddle and straight key
> 
> 6)      PTT and AMP KEY should be RCA Phono (again)
> 
> 7)      Dedicated RIT control (not the multi-knob)
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> 8)      Simplified VFO mode (i.e. getting in and out of split)
> 
> 9)      Buttons should have a max of dual function.  Push once to enable
> main function, push twice (quickly) to enable secondary function.  I don’t
> want to push multiple buttons that may be on opposite sides of the front
> panel.
> 
> 10)   Exception to menu handling is allowed but only for things that really
> are “set once and forget”, such as defining filter slots and screen color.
> 
> 11)   Mic gain and CW Speed should be a dedicated knob.  I’m OK with it just
> being one knob, but others might prefer concentric.
> 
> 12)   Band stacking register.  Don’t understand why it was left out.
> 
> 13)   [finally] address the keying timing issues when using a non-Ten-Tec
> linear amplifier.  The Pre-dit and Post-dit (hang) time must be adjustable.
> Pre-dit can be inside the “set once and forget” menu, but Post-dit is a
> value I change often.  Either make it easy to adjust, OR make it dynamically
> linked to the keyer speed with user adjustable ratio.  There are keyers on
> the market that have this feature.
> 
> 14)   IF output to the real panel.  Can be an option, but just plug one
> cable.
> 
> 15)   Pre-selector output to the real panel.  Can be an option, but just 2
> cables.
> 
> 16)   AUX-RX ANT connection.  It’s to the point now that often the low bands
> are only usable with some kind of special small receiving antenna, due to
> all the noise from consumer products.
> 
> 17)   NO BAND SCOPE.  (Use the IF connector on the rear panel).  Or use an
> ANT OUT, an external SDR, and Carl’s NP4Y software.
> 
> 18)   Power Out indicator (not just an ALC LED)
> 
> 19)   What else?
> 
> 20)   Bright Red-Orange Dot!  ;-)
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> 
> I’m sure I have forgotten a few points, but mainly  KEEP IT SIMPLE  so that
> old eyes and old fingers can use it.
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> 
> I intentionally began this thread here rather than in the Eagle group
> because maybe if we get these changes, some of the people here (and not
> currently in the Eagle group) will join us.
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> PIMP MY EAGLE!
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> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> 
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
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