[TenTec] pimp my eagle.

rick@dj0ip.de Rick at DJ0IP.de
Fri Jan 8 10:17:50 EST 2016


MAC PnP is so good because it is proprietary.

I don't want to get into a MAC vs. WIN spat here but when we speak of PnP, we are insinuating being able to play with components from almost any make and model in the world.  MAC PnP was anything but that.  MAC was PnP with MAC.

And as you say, Win95 was very poor at PnP but at least it got the ball rolling.

In the 1970s and 1980s, every operating system was PnP to the extent MAC is PnP.  Every company used their own proprietary interfaces and their own products did PnP with their systems, no problem.  But the customers wanted Make-independent PnP.  That's what we have today.  MAC wasn't really make-independent PnP until they switched to the Intel processor.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)



-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary J FollettDukes HiFi
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 4:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [TenTec] pimp my eagle.

MAC OS preceded Windows 95, which turned out to be, as I told the Microsoft rep at the Minnesota State Fair in summer of 1996, “It’s a FAIR emulation of MAC OS”. 

Windows NEVER reached the MAC level of  P n P until Windows XP/2000/NT, so there was a very long time during which true P n P existed only in the MAC world.

MAC P n P is still better than the Windows approach but at least Windows is usable and its wide acceptance (due only to the fact that its devices were cheaper than Apple’s) makes peripherals fairly inexpensive.

73

Gary



> On Jan 8, 2016, at 3:42 AM, rick at dj0ip.de <Rick at DJ0IP.de> wrote:
> 
> Barry,
> 
> This is no different that the computer industry in 1990.
> People (users) began demanding plug-n-play.
> They wanted to be able to buy anything - disk drives, keyboards, 
> mouse, memory modules, anything - anywhere and have it play.
> 
> I was a member of one of the storage committees working on delivering 
> to this.
> Windows 95 was the very first PnP operating system (and boy did it 
> have trouble).
> But today, 25 years later, nobody thinks twice about this.  It just 
> all works.
> 
> Perhaps my 10 years was a little optimistic.
> 
> It will begin whenever the first major transceiver OEM opens up its 
> API and allows 3rd party UKI vendors to build to them.
> 
> For reminder, UKI is the term I coined for User Knob Interface.
> I'm referring to companies like Wood Box who make the TMate2.
> 
> The point is, UNTIL WE THE PEOPLE START ASKING FOR IT, it's never 
> going to happen.
> Right now the OEMs are making a killing charging $300 for a tiny box 
> with a couple of knobs and buttons.
> 
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry 
> N1EU
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 11:13 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] pimp my eagle.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:52 PM, rick at dj0ip.de <Rick at dj0ip.de> wrote:
> 
>> John,
>> 
>> One day within the next 10 years, ALL radios will be SDR black boxes.
>> 
>> They will all be controllable by an open API and you can buy your 
>> User Knob Interface (UKI) from any of several 3rd party companies 
>> making only
> UKI's.
>> They work with any radio, regardless of make or model.  Like a 
>> keyboard today works with just about any computer.
> 
> 
> I hope you're right Rick but I'm skeptical.  Where is the driving 
> force, toward API standardization by all the SDR radio manufacturers, 
> going to come from?
> 
> Barry N1EU
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