[TenTec] OT: Question to the group

[Al Gulseth]

What gets me is seeing folks obsessing over getting "only 90W" out of their 
100W rated rig on some particular band but then ignoring the inefficiencies 
of their generic autotuner/balun setup and/or antenna. Give me 50W (or even 
5W) and a low-loss matching and feed system into an efficient antenna and 
I'll outdo your 100W into a lossy matching system/feedline and poor antenna. 
The commercial VHF/UHF (and ham 60M etc.) system of ERP (Effective Radiated 
Power) consisting of TX power out - feedline losses X antenna gain is also 
applicable at HF and a more realistic picture than just TX output.

/rant off HI HI!!

73, Al

On Fri July 15 2016 5:21:25 am Vic Klein wrote:
> Actually, that sounds pretty good to me. My Omni VII spends more time at
> 50w than at 100 as that is where it sits to drive my amp and where I
> usually operate for digital modes. However, I imagine the 50w rig would
> need to run at 25w for the latter? Still, the price is very good for those
> specs. For years my main rig was a Triton I with only 50w and I worked the
> world with that. After all, it is only a half an S-unit down if all things
> are equal.
>
> That said, I imagine it would not be popular with new hams, even at the
> price. Without operating experience the 50w difference seems huge. I've
> seen some go for a 70w 2m rig instead of a 50w just for the extra power
> when that is all but imperceptible on 2m FM. They buy from basic features
> with weight given to what they understand...like more power is better, but
> they may not understand noise floors and such. If I was considering to
> build this, I think I would find a way to get it to 100w to appear more
> competitive with, for example, and IC-7300.
>
> =Vic=
> WA4THR
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> Subject:[TenTec] OT: Question to the group
> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 23:43:26 +0200
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>
> What would you guys think of a new radio that had the following
> characteristics:
>
> Ø   SDR radio with knobs, similar size and form factor to the IC-7300
>
> Ø  Superior receiver to the IC-7300; roughly on par with the Flex 6300
>
> Ø  50w of output power
>
> Ø  Cost: $1000
>
>  I guess the big question is, is 50w a show stopper.
>
> Had someone ask me that question recently (obviously with the intent to
> build this) and I had to pass.
>
> I dunno.
>
> For me I find it OK.
>
> I usually run my Eagle at 60w and when driving my amp, it runs at 60w.
>
>
> But my gut tells me most people won?t accept a 50w transmitter.
>
> They are programmed to expect 100w.
>
>
>
> What do you guys think?
>
>
>
> 73
>
> Rick, DJ0IP
>
>
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