[TenTec] OT: Question to the group

Jim Brown k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com
Mon Jul 18 03:46:11 EDT 2016


On Mon,7/18/2016 12:25 AM, rick at dj0ip.de wrote:
> Roger, then let's stay with resonant antennas.
> The feedpoint impedance is not only dependant on the impedance of the antenna but also on the transformation of impedance due to the specific length of feedline . . .  which varies from one band to another.

Rick,

You miss the point. In general, multiband antennas are NOT resonant, and 
they do NOT match the feedline within reasonable ratios. That's Gary's 
point, and it's mine as well. There are lots of ways to make a single 
antenna resonate on multiple bands. Fan dipoles, trap dipoles, even some 
loaded dipole designs, and combinations of fans and loaded dipoles.

Barry at Hypower Antenna Co (it's a basement enterprise, I never 
remember his call, but a good guy) sells a loaded dipole for 80 that is 
also resonant on 40, and to which a 20M fan element can easily be added. 
I've very successfully used a 160/80/40 version of that design at 
several QTHs. See my website for construction details on fan dipoles, 
buy the coils from Barry. Loaded antennas in general are not very 
broadband, so you'll need a tuner. Also, in a fan dipole, the higher 
frequency element has about half the SWR bandwidth of a non-fan dipole, 
but 40M is not a very wide band, and neither is 20M (thinking percentage 
bandwidth, which is what matters).

I've VERY successfully used 20/15/10 fan dipoles, both in Chicago (only 
30 ft high) and here in W6 (100 ft or so) before I had a SteppIR.

Also, consider this -- we're on the downside of the solar cycle, 10M is 
a lot less open, 15M not a lot better. It was a down part of the cycle 
when I moved to W6, and I lived 3 years in W6 before I made a Q on 10M 
beyond single hop Sporadic E, and nearly that long on 15M. You guys in 
EU can work another country single-hop Sporadic-E on 10M, but here in 
W6, we need the F-layer to work anything but K, VE and XE. :)

73, Jim K9YC



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