[TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 165, Issue 8
Michael Chowning
mike.chowning at mgccc.org
Mon Sep 5 10:19:53 EDT 2016
From a fan of Ten Tec, nothing lowly about TT. Yes, I also own elecraft rigs.
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Mike, N8TTR
On 9/5/16 8:52 AM, Terry Foskey via TenTec wrote:
> Is there an elecraft site where one may continue to discuss the radio's superior attributes. It seems out of place to discuss among the lowly likes of TenTec owners.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 1. Re: ten tec orion 2 not booting up (Fernando)
>> 2. Re: scads of ic-7300's (SPENCER)
>> 3. Re: OT: Hatch has the best Chili Peppers (Michael Chowning)
>> 4. Re: I hate to say it but... (marsh at ka5m.net)
>> 5. I hate to say it but (JIM LIVINGOOD)
>> 6. Re: I hate to say it but... (rick at dj0ip.de)
>> 7. Re: I hate to say it but (rick at dj0ip.de)
>> 8. I hate to say it but! (JIM LIVINGOOD)
>> 9. Re: FOR SALE: Filters for Orion II, Eagle and RX-366 (Barry N1EU)
>> 10. ARGONAUT 515 problem (rick at dj0ip.de)
>> 11. Re: ARGONAUT 515 problem (Carl Moreschi)
>> 12. Re: ARGONAUT 515 problem (rick at dj0ip.de)
>>
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>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 09:21:52 -0700
>> From: Fernando <n2fq at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ten tec orion 2 not booting up
>> Message-ID: <3F0D558D-0631-499B-9871-518247FAADD6 at sbcglobal.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> Looking at both schematics, they are the same.
>>
>>
>> Fernando N2FQ/6
>> n2fq at sbcglobal.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 4, 2016, at 8:45 AM, denton sprague <denton at oregontrail.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> my workhorse orion 2 won?t boot up correctly?looks like will have to replace the power distribution board? have an orion 1 that has new caps on the board?is the board the same for both radios?
>>> will put in fresh battery in the O 2 at same time?.
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 13:17:35 -0600
>> From: SPENCER <w1gak at arrl.net>
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] scads of ic-7300's
>> Message-ID: <57CC734F.30108 at arrl.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Its like motorcycles, Honda, Harley, BMW, or McDonalds, Burger King or
>> Sparkys in Hatch,NM. I like BMW and Sparkys oinker.
>> Different strokes for different folks.
>> Stand alone SDR's we are not there yet. Wait until the competition heats
>> up. I have a AIRSPY connected to a old radio, what I see and hear is
>> remarkable.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 15:53:33 -0400
>> From: Michael Chowning <mike.chowning at mgccc.org>
>> To: w1gak at arrl.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: Hatch has the best Chili Peppers
>> Message-ID: <8412d8f8-3c0a-afdc-052b-2c168eb638cf at mgccc.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
>>
>> Lived in Albuquerque and Vaughn for a year and learned to love the
>> peppers from Hatch.
>> Mike, N8TTR
>>
>>> On 9/4/16 3:17 PM, SPENCER wrote:
>>> Its like motorcycles, Honda, Harley, BMW, or McDonalds, Burger King or
>>> Sparkys in Hatch,NM. I like BMW and Sparkys oinker.
>>> Different strokes for different folks.
>>> Stand alone SDR's we are not there yet. Wait until the competition
>>> heats up. I have a AIRSPY connected to a old radio, what I see and
>>> hear is
>>> remarkable.
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> TenTec at contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 14:56:54 -0500
>> From: <marsh at ka5m.net>
>> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but...
>> Message-ID: <000501d206e6$7cfd1050$76f730f0$@ka5m.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> My Ten-Tec Orion II has a black front panel and white lettering on the knobs
>> and buttons - great contrast and easy to read.
>>
>> Yes, for me the Orion II is easier to operate than the Omni VI+ was. Reason?
>> It is easier, in my opinion, to listen to a DX station operating split and
>> monitor your transmit frequency with dual receivers (Orion II) that it is
>> with a single receiver and switching between receive and transmit VFOs (Omni
>> VI+). That's just my opinion and how I like to operate.
>>
>> 73,
>> Marsh, KA5M
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Rick at DJ0IP.de
>> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 2:14 AM
>> To: 'Greg S' <oldlongbeard at yahoo.com>; 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>> <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but...
>>
>> No radio with a dark, almost black front panel is ergonomic. The first time
>> I sat down at a TS-850 at Field Day, I quit operating within 5 minutes. I
>> had forgotten my reading glasses and for the life of me, couldn't read the
>> tiny print on its front panel.
>>
>> We are not at war in our ham shack and don't need to camouflage our radios.
>> A light background with dark print is the easiest thing for eyes to read.
>>
>> If you don't have bad eyes, you probably see it differently.
>> (PUN intended)
>>
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Greg S via
>> TenTec
>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 9:45 PM
>> To: k9yc at arrl.net; tentec at contesting.com; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Cc: Greg S
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but...
>>
>> 1. They never made an Omni V+. (RTFM)2. I concur, the TS-850S was also
>> ergonomic for me. 3. I will suggest, if you used your KX3, for several
>> years, and never used your K3, you would say the opposite about their UI's.
>> You "like" the K3 because you are used to it. The older one gets, the more
>> likely one is to "like" what they are familiar with....... and forget some
>> things. Like Roman Numeral designations of TenTec rigs. ;-) 73-Greg, KC8HXO
>>
>>
>> From: Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 2:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but...
>>
>> How we view ergonomics is a very personal thing. Itis strongly affected by
>> what we're used to, to how our minds work, and what we do with our radios.
>> ICOM's is different from Yaesu's, which is different from Kenwood, which is
>> different from Ten Tec. The last rigs I've owned from these companies (in
>> the order I mentioned them) are the 746, the FT1000MP, the TS850, and the
>> Omni V+. The UI that I liked the least was the 746, the MP was better, and
>> Omni V+ was third, and the Kenwood UI was the one I liked the best.
>>
>> Enter the Elecraft K2, which my friends, including NY9H, were telling me was
>> the new big thing, and I bought one (no time to build it, I was running my
>> own small biz). This was 2003, and my other radio was the Omni V+, also
>> bought used. The K2 is tiny by comparison to any of those other radios, so
>> get all the functions and controls we need, buttons and controls had to do
>> double, triple, and even quadruple duty. Think about the functionality of
>> early handheld GPS units; my primary GPS is still a wonderful handheld
>> Garmin that runs on AA batteries, has a full set of maps (I had to buy
>> them), has great sensitivity, and does waypoints. 8 buttons total. Can you
>> say SLOOOW? But I love it because it runs on AAs, it does waypoints, and it
>> tracks me walking on trails!
>>
>> That K2 got my brain used to the control logic that was greatly expanded and
>> refined for the K3. The target market for the K3 is the high end user who
>> doesn't have high end bucks. It's highly modular, and it is MUCH smaller and
>> lighter than other high end radios. I'm part of the target market -- very
>> demanding of performance, take my radios out in the field so I really
>> appreciate the compact size and weight, also have limited space on my
>> operating desk for two complete stations, and that compactness and
>> modularity helps there too.
>>
>> I do NOT find the K3 UI in any way limiting or frustrating. Perhaps that's
>> because I RTFM before I start using a new product, whatever it is. I was
>> unable to RTFM when I sat down in front of an Orion at a friend's contest
>> station, so I had no idea what to do with it. And I never made a QSO with
>> it. The K3 (and K3S) UI meshes ideally with MY operating style, MY mindset.
>> Yes, I nearly always go the wrong way round the mode toggle. But as to
>> changing bands and modes, the K3 and K3S have a bunch of memories that can
>> be easily programmed (if you RTFM) to hold a bunch of standard setups. These
>> radios can be set to remember power and other settings by band, and some by
>> mode.
>>
>> And once I've set up my radio for a given station (or on FD for the
>> preferences of the operators, the mic/cans we'll be using and where we plug
>> them in), there's zero need to access the menus. In 2008, when the
>> K3 was a brand new radio, Elecraft loaned a bunch of them to the VP6DX
>> expedition, and K3NA sat the team down to give them a half hour class on the
>> new radio. He then sat them down in front of the radios, and later reported
>> that these experienced operators from all over the world felt comfortable
>> with the new radios almost immediately, and found them very logical and easy
>> to operate.
>>
>> The UI in the K3 and K3S (virtually the same) is, by far, the best of any
>> radio I've ever used. Operationally, I find it no more complicated than my
>> S38D, my BC348, and my HQ129X, all of which did a LOT less! It's FAR easier
>> to control bandwidth and move the IF around than in the Omni
>> V+, the FT1000MP, or the TS850. There's a built-in keyer, also very
>> adjustable (from the menu), with a front panel knob for speed. My Omni
>> V+ lacked a keyer. A very good antenna tuner is an option in the K3; my
>> Omni V+ lacked an antenna tuner. The K3 and K3S have an optional 2nd RX that
>> is equal in performance to the main RX. The only shortcoming of that 2nd RX
>> is that you DO need to mess with the menus to adjust it. OR
>> -- with two quick pushes of the A>B button, you can transfer all settings of
>> the main RX to the 2nd RX. AND -- I can set up BOTH receivers with the NB
>> and NR turned on. That can be a VERY big deal if you use diversity mode and
>> one or both of your RX antennas is noisy.
>>
>> I also own a KX3, a far more compact radio than even the K3/K3S, and each of
>> the buttons and knobs has even more multiple functions. I don't use this
>> radio much, so I find the UI frustrating at times. But it's a very powerful
>> radio, it fits in the pocket of my winter jacket, and I've loaned it to a
>> friend who, with help from XYL and W6JTI, have dragged it up a 2-3 mile
>> trail that gains 1,000 ft elevation, along with its 100W amp, batteries,
>> antenna, and coax! Try doing that with an Omni VI+. :)
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>>> On Fri,9/2/2016 2:39 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>> The front panel ergonomics on the K3 is a nightmare compared to the
>>> Omni
>>> 6+, which has perhaps the best front panel EVER. FWIW, I've owned
>>> 6+them
>>> both for many years.
>>
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>> ------------------------------
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 16:04:30 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: JIM LIVINGOOD <jliving39 at comcast.net>
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>> Subject: [TenTec] I hate to say it but
>> Message-ID: <1639971626.58530.1473019470629 at connect.xfinity.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> ?Guys, relax, it ain't the radio it is the metal in the sky that is important. jim, K4CFA
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 22:15:43 +0200
>> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
>> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but...
>> Message-ID: <002c01d206e9$1de095d0$59a1c170$@de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Well white print on black might be easy on the eyes but black print on white
>> is even easier.
>> Every now and then you'll see a magazine page printed with white print on
>> black.
>> You wouldn't want to read a whole newspaper like that!
>>
>> Your example is indeed a good one, but not something I do very often. I
>> guess that's why I didn't rank it higher.
>>
>> I agree the OR is easy to operate but I still preferred the OM6. Different
>> strokes.
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> marsh at ka5m.net
>> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 9:57 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but...
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> My Ten-Tec Orion II has a black front panel and white lettering on the knobs
>> and buttons - great contrast and easy to read.
>>
>> Yes, for me the Orion II is easier to operate than the Omni VI+ was. Reason?
>> It is easier, in my opinion, to listen to a DX station operating split and
>> monitor your transmit frequency with dual receivers (Orion II) that it is
>> with a single receiver and switching between receive and transmit VFOs (Omni
>> VI+). That's just my opinion and how I like to operate.
>>
>> 73,
>> Marsh, KA5M
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> Rick at DJ0IP.de
>> Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2016 2:14 AM
>> To: 'Greg S' <oldlongbeard at yahoo.com>; 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>> <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but...
>>
>> No radio with a dark, almost black front panel is ergonomic. The first time
>> I sat down at a TS-850 at Field Day, I quit operating within 5 minutes. I
>> had forgotten my reading glasses and for the life of me, couldn't read the
>> tiny print on its front panel.
>>
>> We are not at war in our ham shack and don't need to camouflage our radios.
>> A light background with dark print is the easiest thing for eyes to read.
>>
>> If you don't have bad eyes, you probably see it differently.
>> (PUN intended)
>>
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Greg S via
>> TenTec
>> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2016 9:45 PM
>> To: k9yc at arrl.net; tentec at contesting.com; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Cc: Greg S
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but...
>>
>> 1. They never made an Omni V+. (RTFM)2. I concur, the TS-850S was also
>> ergonomic for me. 3. I will suggest, if you used your KX3, for several
>> years, and never used your K3, you would say the opposite about their UI's.
>> You "like" the K3 because you are used to it. The older one gets, the more
>> likely one is to "like" what they are familiar with....... and forget some
>> things. Like Roman Numeral designations of TenTec rigs. ;-) 73-Greg, KC8HXO
>>
>>
>> From: Jim Brown <k9yc at audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 2:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but...
>>
>> How we view ergonomics is a very personal thing. Itis strongly affected by
>> what we're used to, to how our minds work, and what we do with our radios.
>> ICOM's is different from Yaesu's, which is different from Kenwood, which is
>> different from Ten Tec. The last rigs I've owned from these companies (in
>> the order I mentioned them) are the 746, the FT1000MP, the TS850, and the
>> Omni V+. The UI that I liked the least was the 746, the MP was better, and
>> Omni V+ was third, and the Kenwood UI was the one I liked the best.
>>
>> Enter the Elecraft K2, which my friends, including NY9H, were telling me was
>> the new big thing, and I bought one (no time to build it, I was running my
>> own small biz). This was 2003, and my other radio was the Omni V+, also
>> bought used. The K2 is tiny by comparison to any of those other radios, so
>> get all the functions and controls we need, buttons and controls had to do
>> double, triple, and even quadruple duty. Think about the functionality of
>> early handheld GPS units; my primary GPS is still a wonderful handheld
>> Garmin that runs on AA batteries, has a full set of maps (I had to buy
>> them), has great sensitivity, and does waypoints. 8 buttons total. Can you
>> say SLOOOW? But I love it because it runs on AAs, it does waypoints, and it
>> tracks me walking on trails!
>>
>> That K2 got my brain used to the control logic that was greatly expanded and
>> refined for the K3. The target market for the K3 is the high end user who
>> doesn't have high end bucks. It's highly modular, and it is MUCH smaller and
>> lighter than other high end radios. I'm part of the target market -- very
>> demanding of performance, take my radios out in the field so I really
>> appreciate the compact size and weight, also have limited space on my
>> operating desk for two complete stations, and that compactness and
>> modularity helps there too.
>>
>> I do NOT find the K3 UI in any way limiting or frustrating. Perhaps that's
>> because I RTFM before I start using a new product, whatever it is. I was
>> unable to RTFM when I sat down in front of an Orion at a friend's contest
>> station, so I had no idea what to do with it. And I never made a QSO with
>> it. The K3 (and K3S) UI meshes ideally with MY operating style, MY mindset.
>> Yes, I nearly always go the wrong way round the mode toggle. But as to
>> changing bands and modes, the K3 and K3S have a bunch of memories that can
>> be easily programmed (if you RTFM) to hold a bunch of standard setups. These
>> radios can be set to remember power and other settings by band, and some by
>> mode.
>>
>> And once I've set up my radio for a given station (or on FD for the
>> preferences of the operators, the mic/cans we'll be using and where we plug
>> them in), there's zero need to access the menus. In 2008, when the
>> K3 was a brand new radio, Elecraft loaned a bunch of them to the VP6DX
>> expedition, and K3NA sat the team down to give them a half hour class on the
>> new radio. He then sat them down in front of the radios, and later reported
>> that these experienced operators from all over the world felt comfortable
>> with the new radios almost immediately, and found them very logical and easy
>> to operate.
>>
>> The UI in the K3 and K3S (virtually the same) is, by far, the best of any
>> radio I've ever used. Operationally, I find it no more complicated than my
>> S38D, my BC348, and my HQ129X, all of which did a LOT less! It's FAR easier
>> to control bandwidth and move the IF around than in the Omni
>> V+, the FT1000MP, or the TS850. There's a built-in keyer, also very
>> adjustable (from the menu), with a front panel knob for speed. My Omni
>> V+ lacked a keyer. A very good antenna tuner is an option in the K3; my
>> Omni V+ lacked an antenna tuner. The K3 and K3S have an optional 2nd RX that
>> is equal in performance to the main RX. The only shortcoming of that 2nd RX
>> is that you DO need to mess with the menus to adjust it. OR
>> -- with two quick pushes of the A>B button, you can transfer all settings of
>> the main RX to the 2nd RX. AND -- I can set up BOTH receivers with the NB
>> and NR turned on. That can be a VERY big deal if you use diversity mode and
>> one or both of your RX antennas is noisy.
>>
>> I also own a KX3, a far more compact radio than even the K3/K3S, and each of
>> the buttons and knobs has even more multiple functions. I don't use this
>> radio much, so I find the UI frustrating at times. But it's a very powerful
>> radio, it fits in the pocket of my winter jacket, and I've loaned it to a
>> friend who, with help from XYL and W6JTI, have dragged it up a 2-3 mile
>> trail that gains 1,000 ft elevation, along with its 100W amp, batteries,
>> antenna, and coax! Try doing that with an Omni VI+. :)
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>>> On Fri,9/2/2016 2:39 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>> The front panel ergonomics on the K3 is a nightmare compared to the
>>> Omni
>>> 6+, which has perhaps the best front panel EVER. FWIW, I've owned
>>> 6+them
>>> both for many years.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 22:17:01 +0200
>> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
>> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] I hate to say it but
>> Message-ID: <002d01d206e9$4c5e49c0$e51add40$@de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>>
>> Doesn't have to be all metal.
>> It can be a combination of fiberglass and metal!
>>
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of JIM LIVINGOOD
>> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:05 PM
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>> Subject: [TenTec] I hate to say it but
>>
>> ?Guys, relax, it ain't the radio it is the metal in the sky that is important. jim, K4CFA _______________________________________________
>> TenTec mailing list
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 17:02:39 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: JIM LIVINGOOD <jliving39 at comcast.net>
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>> Subject: [TenTec] I hate to say it but!
>> Message-ID: <1977395732.57270.1473022960170 at connect.xfinity.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> ?OK Rick, I concede and the fiberglass. Forgot to mention the filters between the operator's head are crucial. Mine are very good. Just give me an average radio and a world class antenna system. I live in an HOA so all antennas here are, by necessity, average. They are wire dipoles, in the stealth mode. My OMNI VII is world class! Simple is good. Jim, K4CFA
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 21:26:53 +0000
>> From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com>
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>, Orion565
>> <orion565 at yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] FOR SALE: Filters for Orion II, Eagle and RX-366
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAFmfzDt0g8TchAR9c5bOx9Qx2xg7sqtVYpKntO_--bKq3sU8HA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> I only still have two 6000Hz filters for sale. These are great for AM,
>> ESSB, and digital soundcard modes.
>>
>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 4, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got Ten-Tec crystal roofing filters for sale that fit the Orion II,
>>> Eagle, and the RX-366 subreceiver. I've got the following bandwidths
>>> available, with several of each except only one 1800Hz:
>>>
>>> 300Hz
>>> 600Hz
>>> 1800Hz
>>> 6000Hz
>>>
>>> Price is $80 each shipped CONUS. PayPal preferred (to
>>> gross.barry at gmail.com) or will also accept money order.
>>>
>>> Please respond direct (privately, off list)
>>>
>>> 73, Barry N1EU
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 04:51:42 +0200
>> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
>> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: [TenTec] ARGONAUT 515 problem
>> Message-ID: <000501d20720$6f782b60$4e688220$@de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Meanwhile, back at Ten-Tec . . .
>>
>>
>>
>> I have just received an Argonaut 515 in fairly good shape, just needing a
>> tune-up.
>>
>> However it does have one minor issue which has me stumped.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 80m I could hear lots of strong signals but all sounding like Donald
>> Duck.
>>
>> I switched to SB-R which should normally place the rig in USB mode and
>> everything worked just fine.
>>
>> On 40m, and all other bands, I switch back to SB-N and everything is fine.
>>
>>
>>
>> I haven't checked transmit yet to see if the wrong mode is only selected in
>> RX or if it is also during TX.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is curious to me is, the mode switch is labeled for SB-Normal and
>> SB-Reverse, yet the signal input to the SSB generator board for switching
>> these is simply called LSB.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I am unable to find is how the position of the bandswitch can pass a
>> signal through the mode switch to tell it when to enable or disable this LSB
>> line. That must be the source of the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> I believe this is very similar to the Triton IV so perhaps someone with
>> that radio understands how this works.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tnx.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Rick, DJ0IP
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 11
>> Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2016 07:52:08 -0400
>> From: Carl Moreschi <n4py3 at earthlink.net>
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ARGONAUT 515 problem
>> Message-ID: <57CD5C68.8080906 at earthlink.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Rick, I think this is normal. The mixing scheme works such that LSB
>> comes out as normal on 80 meters. I seem to recall that my Omni A
>> worked the same way. I think they use the same crystal for 20 and 80
>> meters to get to the IF and this yields USB on 20 meters and LSB on 80
>> meters.
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>>> On 9/4/2016 10:51 PM, rick at dj0ip.de wrote:
>>> Meanwhile, back at Ten-Tec . . .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have just received an Argonaut 515 in fairly good shape, just needing a
>>> tune-up.
>>>
>>> However it does have one minor issue which has me stumped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 80m I could hear lots of strong signals but all sounding like Donald
>>> Duck.
>>>
>>> I switched to SB-R which should normally place the rig in USB mode and
>>> everything worked just fine.
>>>
>>> On 40m, and all other bands, I switch back to SB-N and everything is fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't checked transmit yet to see if the wrong mode is only selected in
>>> RX or if it is also during TX.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is curious to me is, the mode switch is labeled for SB-Normal and
>>> SB-Reverse, yet the signal input to the SSB generator board for switching
>>> these is simply called LSB.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What I am unable to find is how the position of the bandswitch can pass a
>>> signal through the mode switch to tell it when to enable or disable this LSB
>>> line. That must be the source of the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe this is very similar to the Triton IV so perhaps someone with
>>> that radio understands how this works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tnx.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Rick, DJ0IP
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TenTec mailing list
>>> TenTec at contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 14:14:20 +0200
>> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
>> To: <n4py3 at earthlink.net>, "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'"
>> <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ARGONAUT 515 problem
>> Message-ID: <000601d2076f$08ec3db0$1ac4b910$@de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Gm Carl,
>>
>> It's the other way around by me. I leave it in "Normal" for all bands
>> except 80m. On 80 I have to switch to Reverse. I have owned 4 pyjrt
>> Argonauts including one other 515 and none of them worked like this.
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
>> Moreschi
>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 1:52 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] ARGONAUT 515 problem
>>
>> Rick, I think this is normal. The mixing scheme works such that LSB comes
>> out as normal on 80 meters. I seem to recall that my Omni A worked the same
>> way. I think they use the same crystal for 20 and 80 meters to get to the
>> IF and this yields USB on 20 meters and LSB on 80 meters.
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>>> On 9/4/2016 10:51 PM, rick at dj0ip.de wrote:
>>> Meanwhile, back at Ten-Tec . . .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have just received an Argonaut 515 in fairly good shape, just
>>> needing a tune-up.
>>>
>>> However it does have one minor issue which has me stumped.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 80m I could hear lots of strong signals but all sounding like
>>> Donald Duck.
>>>
>>> I switched to SB-R which should normally place the rig in USB mode and
>>> everything worked just fine.
>>>
>>> On 40m, and all other bands, I switch back to SB-N and everything is fine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't checked transmit yet to see if the wrong mode is only
>>> selected in RX or if it is also during TX.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is curious to me is, the mode switch is labeled for SB-Normal and
>>> SB-Reverse, yet the signal input to the SSB generator board for
>>> switching these is simply called LSB.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What I am unable to find is how the position of the bandswitch can
>>> pass a signal through the mode switch to tell it when to enable or
>>> disable this LSB line. That must be the source of the problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe this is very similar to the Triton IV so perhaps someone
>>> with that radio understands how this works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tnx.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Rick, DJ0IP
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TenTec mailing list
>>> TenTec at contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
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>>
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