[TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production

[rick@dj0ip.de]

To add to Carl's point, the cost of XTAL filters will soon obsolete the
heterodyning technology.

I have an opinion on why the 7300 is so popular and I am certain it is just
as wrong as the next guy's opinion:

FLEX created the initial "potential" demand.  They spent bundles of bucks on
marketing.  Anan jumped on the band wagon and imitated them, albeit with a
more open approach to software.

The radios performed well and direct sampling, SDR technology is now the
talk of the town.

BUT NO KNOBS?  YUK!

ICOM built us similar technology at an affordable price WITH KNOBS.

BINGO!

It doesn't have to be the best radio on the planet.  I don't think anyone
expects it to be that, at its attractive low price.  It just has to be good
enough and for most people it is.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)



-----Original Message-----
From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
Moreschi
Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:02 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production

The 7300 is used as a comparison because it is selling better than anything
else right now.

I don't think it's a great rig but most hams love it for reasons that are
not clear to me.

Also, direct sequence transceivers is now the current leading state of the
art.  The days of superhetrodyne being the way to go are rapidly
diminishing.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
58 Hogwood Rd
Louisburg, NC 27549
www.n4py.com

On 2/20/2017 9:37 AM, Scott Harwood wrote:
> Why is it folks on this forum set the Icom 7300 as the standard for
excellence?  I compared it feature by feature to the Kenwood TS590SG to
replace my Orion II, and selected the Kenwood.  It has an excellent
receiver, truly fantastic filtering, transmit audio, etc. and I've never
looked back or regretted my decision.  The 7300 is a great rig, but why not
give the 590SG some praise also?
>
> Also, I agree with a lot that was said about the Eagle.  I have one and
use it a lot for portable operation due to it's size, weight, receiver
performance and power output.  I think it does an outstanding job.  I also
have an Argonaut VI with the 100 watt Ten-Tec amp that I use strictly for cw
and QRP work without the amp. I am extremely happy with it.
>
> I don't think anyone would regret purchasing either the Eagle or Argonaut
VI, as long as they fully understand the rigs and their capabilities.
>
> Just my two cents worth.
>
> Scott K4VWK
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: terry foskey via TenTec<tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Feb 20, 2017 8:38 AM
>> To: "tentec at contesting.com"<tentec at contesting.com>
>> Cc: terry foskey<n5tf at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>>
>> Eagle numbers at $1600 per unit.  Thats a stoudt price point when
comparing to an Icom 7300.
>> How many units to produce meaningful funding for R&D expansion?
>> Let's assume $300 or $500 profit per unit (thats after Overhead, Labor
and Materials), 100 unit run, that's $30 to $50K in profit.  Probably
optimistic numbers.
>>
>> Let's assume the R&D cost per engineering hour is $100 per hour, you are
looking at 300 to 500 hours being produced from a 100 unit run.  What can be
engineered from 300 to 500 hours of R&D funding?  Certainly not something
which is far afield from existing products.
>> This is my point,  is it better to somehow take this down time, take
profit from other commercial products and use the profit on a quick R&D
effort to revamp an existing product or use the time to produce a radio with
limited demand? Then take more time (if the Eagle sells) to make something
for next year.
>> If you want to produce something now, make Alpha Wattmeters, Amplifiers,
TenTec manual Tuners, accessories, etc....Figure out which products will
sell with the largest profit margin and go for it.
>>
>> I applaud Mike's efforts and I will support TenTec but not via an Eagle
purchase.  I don't believe the Eagle has the feature set being sought by
customers.
>> N5TF,Terry
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