[TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 170, Issue 27
Jacques Paoli
tk1lg at free.fr
Mon Feb 20 14:35:05 EST 2017
I am trying to download or buy a manual service for settings of a Tentec OMNI VII. Thank you
tk1lg
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> 1. Mike's Points (terry foskey)
> 2. OMNI VI FOR SALE not working (David Perrin)
> 3. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (rick at dj0ip.de)
> 4. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (Ron Notarius W3WN)
> 5. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (Barry N1EU)
> 6. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (rick at dj0ip.de)
> 7. Re: Scale Of Eagle Production (rick at dj0ip.de)
> 8. Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or similar for
> 80/40 dipole. (Katz Ajamas)
> 9. Re: Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or similar
> for 80/40 dipole. (rick at dj0ip.de)
> 10. Re: need a KR-50 keyed part (Mike Bryce)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:02:54 +0000 (UTC)
> From: terry foskey <n5tf at yahoo.com>
> To: "TenTec at contesting.com" <TenTec at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] Mike's Points
> Message-ID: <17755225.1085075.1487606575000 at mail.yahoo.com>
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> All good ideas, well stated.
> N5TF, terry
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>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:07:27 -0500
> From: David Perrin <dbperrin at gmail.com>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] OMNI VI FOR SALE not working
> Message-ID: <D623A33C-E286-41AD-92F9-7ED8A63EBF8F at gmail.com>
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> I have a Ten-Tec OMNI VI that isn?t working for sale. Cosmetically it is a 9++. It has the full complement of Roofing filters and the manual.
>
> $400 here in NH, shipping extra.
>
> Pictures available.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:18:15 +0100
> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID: <003001d28b94$f0e97ca0$d2bc75e0$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> To add to Carl's point, the cost of XTAL filters will soon obsolete the
> heterodyning technology.
>
> I have an opinion on why the 7300 is so popular and I am certain it is just
> as wrong as the next guy's opinion:
>
> FLEX created the initial "potential" demand. They spent bundles of bucks on
> marketing. Anan jumped on the band wagon and imitated them, albeit with a
> more open approach to software.
>
> The radios performed well and direct sampling, SDR technology is now the
> talk of the town.
>
> BUT NO KNOBS? YUK!
>
> ICOM built us similar technology at an affordable price WITH KNOBS.
>
> BINGO!
>
> It doesn't have to be the best radio on the planet. I don't think anyone
> expects it to be that, at its attractive low price. It just has to be good
> enough and for most people it is.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
> Moreschi
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:02 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>
> The 7300 is used as a comparison because it is selling better than anything
> else right now.
>
> I don't think it's a great rig but most hams love it for reasons that are
> not clear to me.
>
> Also, direct sequence transceivers is now the current leading state of the
> art. The days of superhetrodyne being the way to go are rapidly
> diminishing.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
>
> On 2/20/2017 9:37 AM, Scott Harwood wrote:
>> Why is it folks on this forum set the Icom 7300 as the standard for
> excellence? I compared it feature by feature to the Kenwood TS590SG to
> replace my Orion II, and selected the Kenwood. It has an excellent
> receiver, truly fantastic filtering, transmit audio, etc. and I've never
> looked back or regretted my decision. The 7300 is a great rig, but why not
> give the 590SG some praise also?
>>
>> Also, I agree with a lot that was said about the Eagle. I have one and
> use it a lot for portable operation due to it's size, weight, receiver
> performance and power output. I think it does an outstanding job. I also
> have an Argonaut VI with the 100 watt Ten-Tec amp that I use strictly for cw
> and QRP work without the amp. I am extremely happy with it.
>>
>> I don't think anyone would regret purchasing either the Eagle or Argonaut
> VI, as long as they fully understand the rigs and their capabilities.
>>
>> Just my two cents worth.
>>
>> Scott K4VWK
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: terry foskey via TenTec<tentec at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Feb 20, 2017 8:38 AM
>>> To: "tentec at contesting.com"<tentec at contesting.com>
>>> Cc: terry foskey<n5tf at yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>>>
>>> Eagle numbers at $1600 per unit. Thats a stoudt price point when
> comparing to an Icom 7300.
>>> How many units to produce meaningful funding for R&D expansion?
>>> Let's assume $300 or $500 profit per unit (thats after Overhead, Labor
> and Materials), 100 unit run, that's $30 to $50K in profit. Probably
> optimistic numbers.
>>>
>>> Let's assume the R&D cost per engineering hour is $100 per hour, you are
> looking at 300 to 500 hours being produced from a 100 unit run. What can be
> engineered from 300 to 500 hours of R&D funding? Certainly not something
> which is far afield from existing products.
>>> This is my point, is it better to somehow take this down time, take
> profit from other commercial products and use the profit on a quick R&D
> effort to revamp an existing product or use the time to produce a radio with
> limited demand? Then take more time (if the Eagle sells) to make something
> for next year.
>>> If you want to produce something now, make Alpha Wattmeters, Amplifiers,
> TenTec manual Tuners, accessories, etc....Figure out which products will
> sell with the largest profit margin and go for it.
>>>
>>> I applaud Mike's efforts and I will support TenTec but not via an Eagle
> purchase. I don't believe the Eagle has the feature set being sought by
> customers.
>>> N5TF,Terry
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 10:20:14 -0600 (CST)
> From: Ron Notarius W3WN <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
> To: tentec at contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID:
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> Unfortunately, I have to agree with Mike that there is a perception out in the "real" world that Ten Tec is gone forever. And Alpha Amplifiers as well, for that matter.
>
>
> The so-called "funeral committee" that resides on several public websites/forums, specifically on eHam and QRZ, are constantly posting negative comments about the two companies. Not a week goes by that either a new forum thread is created, or an older one is resurrected, all to the effect that both firms are gone for good. No matter how much you counter them with the facts, they are quick to restate the same old rumors, innuendos, and outright lies that they've been saying for months if not years.
>
>
> When positive news is posted... such as Rick's email the other night... they are quick to deride it.
>
>
> If you get the impression that most of these... posters... are haters, and are waiting with glee for this to become a self-fulfilling prophecy, well, that's at least the impression I have.
>
>
> That WE are aware of the situation is not the point. It's everyone else out there...
>
>
> And all of this gets dumped on Mike. Which is not fair, because he's not the one that did all of the damage... he's the one trying (so far successfully) to undo it.
>
>
> Which is why I think that Ten Tec / Alpha / Dishtronix not only needs to make an appearance at the Xenia Hamvention, but have SOMETHING available on the spot for sale. (Even if the items sell out before the end of the event on Sunday). Followed up by a PR campaign announcing in some form "We're Back!" or "We're Still Here!" or whatever.
>
>
> Granted, you will never sway those whose minds are already made up and closed to new thoughts, let alone the haters who consider the companies dead, deceased, embalmed, ready to be buried & good riddance. So forget them. They are a minority. A vocal and highly obnoxious minority, but a minority nonetheless.
>
>
> The time is ripe for a positive PR campaign.
>
>
> Besides... when the time comes, if nobody outside of our little group knows that the new Eagles are available, how will they ever buy them?
>
>
> 73, ron w3wn
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:23:28 +0000
> From: Barry N1EU <barry.n1eu at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID:
> <CAFmfzDv=yAZnx187ER_KdCM7MQePa6f2D09eu+btsc53MNBT+Q at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> FWIW, the ANAN/OpenHPSDR direct sampling radios were out before the Flex
> 6000 series of direct sampling radios.
>
> Barry N1EU
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 4:18 PM, rick at dj0ip.de <Rick at dj0ip.de> wrote:
>
>> To add to Carl's point, the cost of XTAL filters will soon obsolete the
>> heterodyning technology.
>>
>> I have an opinion on why the 7300 is so popular and I am certain it is just
>> as wrong as the next guy's opinion:
>>
>> FLEX created the initial "potential" demand. They spent bundles of bucks
>> on
>> marketing. Anan jumped on the band wagon and imitated them, albeit with a
>> more open approach to software.
>>
>> The radios performed well and direct sampling, SDR technology is now the
>> talk of the town.
>>
>> BUT NO KNOBS? YUK!
>>
>> ICOM built us similar technology at an affordable price WITH KNOBS.
>>
>> BINGO!
>>
>> It doesn't have to be the best radio on the planet. I don't think anyone
>> expects it to be that, at its attractive low price. It just has to be good
>> enough and for most people it is.
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
>> Moreschi
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:02 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>>
>> The 7300 is used as a comparison because it is selling better than anything
>> else right now.
>>
>> I don't think it's a great rig but most hams love it for reasons that are
>> not clear to me.
>>
>> Also, direct sequence transceivers is now the current leading state of the
>> art. The days of superhetrodyne being the way to go are rapidly
>> diminishing.
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>> On 2/20/2017 9:37 AM, Scott Harwood wrote:
>>> Why is it folks on this forum set the Icom 7300 as the standard for
>> excellence? I compared it feature by feature to the Kenwood TS590SG to
>> replace my Orion II, and selected the Kenwood. It has an excellent
>> receiver, truly fantastic filtering, transmit audio, etc. and I've never
>> looked back or regretted my decision. The 7300 is a great rig, but why not
>> give the 590SG some praise also?
>>>
>>> Also, I agree with a lot that was said about the Eagle. I have one and
>> use it a lot for portable operation due to it's size, weight, receiver
>> performance and power output. I think it does an outstanding job. I also
>> have an Argonaut VI with the 100 watt Ten-Tec amp that I use strictly for
>> cw
>> and QRP work without the amp. I am extremely happy with it.
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone would regret purchasing either the Eagle or Argonaut
>> VI, as long as they fully understand the rigs and their capabilities.
>>>
>>> Just my two cents worth.
>>>
>>> Scott K4VWK
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: terry foskey via TenTec<tentec at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Feb 20, 2017 8:38 AM
>>>> To: "tentec at contesting.com"<tentec at contesting.com>
>>>> Cc: terry foskey<n5tf at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>>>>
>>>> Eagle numbers at $1600 per unit. Thats a stoudt price point when
>> comparing to an Icom 7300.
>>>> How many units to produce meaningful funding for R&D expansion?
>>>> Let's assume $300 or $500 profit per unit (thats after Overhead, Labor
>> and Materials), 100 unit run, that's $30 to $50K in profit. Probably
>> optimistic numbers.
>>>>
>>>> Let's assume the R&D cost per engineering hour is $100 per hour, you are
>> looking at 300 to 500 hours being produced from a 100 unit run. What can
>> be
>> engineered from 300 to 500 hours of R&D funding? Certainly not something
>> which is far afield from existing products.
>>>> This is my point, is it better to somehow take this down time, take
>> profit from other commercial products and use the profit on a quick R&D
>> effort to revamp an existing product or use the time to produce a radio
>> with
>> limited demand? Then take more time (if the Eagle sells) to make something
>> for next year.
>>>> If you want to produce something now, make Alpha Wattmeters, Amplifiers,
>> TenTec manual Tuners, accessories, etc....Figure out which products will
>> sell with the largest profit margin and go for it.
>>>>
>>>> I applaud Mike's efforts and I will support TenTec but not via an Eagle
>> purchase. I don't believe the Eagle has the feature set being sought by
>> customers.
>>>> N5TF,Terry
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> TenTec mailing list
>>>> TenTec at contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TenTec mailing list
>>> TenTec at contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:31:10 +0100
> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID: <003101d28b96$bf63a6e0$3e2af4a0$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Ron,
>
> we have continuously run monthly ads in local magazines showing a picture of
> the Eagle until December 2016 (just 2 months ago). We will resume running
> the same ad and picture but add "THE EAGLE IS BACK" to the ad.
>
> People will know. I'll make sure of that, and (I have a BIG mouth!)
>
> My Spiderbeam group has over 1600 members world-wide, and I am a member of
> several other groups. I can hit at least 4000 people within an hour.
>
> And my personal web site is averaging 2000 visitors per day, every day.
> I will make it first page news there.
>
> Keep the faith!
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ron
> Notarius W3WN
>
>
> Besides... when the time comes, if nobody outside of our little group knows
> that the new Eagles are available, how will they ever buy them?
>
>
> 73, ron w3wn
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:32:10 +0100
> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
> Message-ID: <003201d28b96$e2cc70d0$a8655270$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Yes, but FLEX MARKETING $$$ put that technology on the map.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:23 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>
> FWIW, the ANAN/OpenHPSDR direct sampling radios were out before the Flex
> 6000 series of direct sampling radios.
>
> Barry N1EU
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 4:18 PM, rick at dj0ip.de <Rick at dj0ip.de> wrote:
>
>> To add to Carl's point, the cost of XTAL filters will soon obsolete
>> the heterodyning technology.
>>
>> I have an opinion on why the 7300 is so popular and I am certain it is
>> just as wrong as the next guy's opinion:
>>
>> FLEX created the initial "potential" demand. They spent bundles of
>> bucks on marketing. Anan jumped on the band wagon and imitated them,
>> albeit with a more open approach to software.
>>
>> The radios performed well and direct sampling, SDR technology is now
>> the talk of the town.
>>
>> BUT NO KNOBS? YUK!
>>
>> ICOM built us similar technology at an affordable price WITH KNOBS.
>>
>> BINGO!
>>
>> It doesn't have to be the best radio on the planet. I don't think
>> anyone expects it to be that, at its attractive low price. It just
>> has to be good enough and for most people it is.
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Carl
>> Moreschi
>> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:02 PM
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>>
>> The 7300 is used as a comparison because it is selling better than
>> anything else right now.
>>
>> I don't think it's a great rig but most hams love it for reasons that
>> are not clear to me.
>>
>> Also, direct sequence transceivers is now the current leading state of
>> the art. The days of superhetrodyne being the way to go are rapidly
>> diminishing.
>>
>> Carl Moreschi N4PY
>> 58 Hogwood Rd
>> Louisburg, NC 27549
>> www.n4py.com
>>
>> On 2/20/2017 9:37 AM, Scott Harwood wrote:
>>> Why is it folks on this forum set the Icom 7300 as the standard for
>> excellence? I compared it feature by feature to the Kenwood TS590SG
>> to replace my Orion II, and selected the Kenwood. It has an excellent
>> receiver, truly fantastic filtering, transmit audio, etc. and I've
>> never looked back or regretted my decision. The 7300 is a great rig,
>> but why not give the 590SG some praise also?
>>>
>>> Also, I agree with a lot that was said about the Eagle. I have one
>>> and
>> use it a lot for portable operation due to it's size, weight, receiver
>> performance and power output. I think it does an outstanding job. I
>> also have an Argonaut VI with the 100 watt Ten-Tec amp that I use
>> strictly for cw and QRP work without the amp. I am extremely happy
>> with it.
>>>
>>> I don't think anyone would regret purchasing either the Eagle or
>>> Argonaut
>> VI, as long as they fully understand the rigs and their capabilities.
>>>
>>> Just my two cents worth.
>>>
>>> Scott K4VWK
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: terry foskey via TenTec<tentec at contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Feb 20, 2017 8:38 AM
>>>> To: "tentec at contesting.com"<tentec at contesting.com>
>>>> Cc: terry foskey<n5tf at yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: [TenTec] Scale Of Eagle Production
>>>>
>>>> Eagle numbers at $1600 per unit. Thats a stoudt price point when
>> comparing to an Icom 7300.
>>>> How many units to produce meaningful funding for R&D expansion?
>>>> Let's assume $300 or $500 profit per unit (thats after Overhead,
>>>> Labor
>> and Materials), 100 unit run, that's $30 to $50K in profit. Probably
>> optimistic numbers.
>>>>
>>>> Let's assume the R&D cost per engineering hour is $100 per hour,
>>>> you are
>> looking at 300 to 500 hours being produced from a 100 unit run. What
>> can be engineered from 300 to 500 hours of R&D funding? Certainly not
>> something which is far afield from existing products.
>>>> This is my point, is it better to somehow take this down time,
>>>> take
>> profit from other commercial products and use the profit on a quick
>> R&D effort to revamp an existing product or use the time to produce a
>> radio with limited demand? Then take more time (if the Eagle sells) to
>> make something for next year.
>>>> If you want to produce something now, make Alpha Wattmeters,
>>>> Amplifiers,
>> TenTec manual Tuners, accessories, etc....Figure out which products
>> will sell with the largest profit margin and go for it.
>>>>
>>>> I applaud Mike's efforts and I will support TenTec but not via an
>>>> Eagle
>> purchase. I don't believe the Eagle has the feature set being sought
>> by customers.
>>>> N5TF,Terry
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> TenTec mailing list
>>>> TenTec at contesting.com
>>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> TenTec mailing list
>>> TenTec at contesting.com
>>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec
>> _______________________________________________
>> TenTec mailing list
>> TenTec at contesting.com
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> TenTec mailing list
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>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:34:30 -0500
> From: Katz Ajamas <ajamas.rn at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or
> similar for 80/40 dipole.
> Message-ID:
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>
> Aloha Rick-
>
> I do not have two clear supports. If I am able to thread a hanging wire
> through the oak's it will turn into a rat's nest with March's first
> windstorm.
>
> Dr Rick-
>
> If I had two clear supports, I'd do as you suggest. As things are, an extra
> wire combined with March winds will result in a big wire rat's nest. My
> antennas are threaded through the crowns of some tall oak trees.
>
> 73, -Bob ah7i/w4
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> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 22:26:14 +0100
> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ
> or similar for 80/40 dipole.
> Message-ID: <000001d28af6$cd6c2410$68446c30$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> YUK! Why would you do something silly like that, Bob?
>
> Why not just a double-dipole with the 40m radiator hung about 2 ft. below
> the 80m radiator?
> And in the meantime, the ONLY way I would address that task is with a simple
> OCF dipole but you need a very special balun/choke design, then it will be
> free (enough) of common mode current.
>
> Trap = Crap.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Katz Ajamas
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 6:26 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or similar
> for 80/40 dipole.
>
> I want to try an 80/40 trap dipole at the ATL QTH.
> For this, I need some traps!
> I am not keen on coax traps.
>
> Preference is for some store bought, KW rated, like those used on Hygain
> DP-2BDQ or some nice homebrew (vacuum caps and big coils). Do I need to say
> cheap? :-) $60?
>
> 73, -Bob ah7i/w4
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:48:23 +0100
> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ
> or similar for 80/40 dipole.
> Message-ID: <003301d28b99$26dd4c20$7497e460$@de>
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> Which is why I said I would not choose a fan dipole either.
> Feed your dipole 33.3% from one end, through a 4:1 Ruthroff (voltage) balun
> and immediately through a 1:1 Guanella choke.
>
> Both easy to wind yourself. If you tell me how much power you want to run,
> I'll recommend wire, turns count and toroid type.
>
> You will have an 80/40m dipole the size of an 80m dipole. You can even bend
> the long leg if it is too long.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Katz Ajamas
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 5:35 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or similar
> for 80/40 dipole.
>
> Aloha Rick-
>
> I do not have two clear supports. If I am able to thread a hanging wire
> through the oak's it will turn into a rat's nest with March's first
> windstorm.
>
> Dr Rick-
>
> If I had two clear supports, I'd do as you suggest. As things are, an extra
> wire combined with March winds will result in a big wire rat's nest. My
> antennas are threaded through the crowns of some tall oak trees.
>
> 73, -Bob ah7i/w4
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> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 22:26:14 +0100
> From: "rick at dj0ip.de" <Rick at DJ0IP.de>
> To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ
> or similar for 80/40 dipole.
> Message-ID: <000001d28af6$cd6c2410$68446c30$@de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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> YUK! Why would you do something silly like that, Bob?
>
> Why not just a double-dipole with the 40m radiator hung about 2 ft. below
> the 80m radiator?
> And in the meantime, the ONLY way I would address that task is with a simple
> OCF dipole but you need a very special balun/choke design, then it will be
> free (enough) of common mode current.
>
> Trap = Crap.
>
> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Katz Ajamas
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2017 6:26 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: [TenTec] Fwd: Looking for some KW traps. HyGain DP-2BDQ or similar
> for 80/40 dipole.
>
> I want to try an 80/40 trap dipole at the ATL QTH.
> For this, I need some traps!
> I am not keen on coax traps.
>
> Preference is for some store bought, KW rated, like those used on Hygain
> DP-2BDQ or some nice homebrew (vacuum caps and big coils). Do I need to say
> cheap? :-) $60?
>
> 73, -Bob ah7i/w4
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:54:55 -0500
> From: Mike Bryce <prosolar at sssnet.com>
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] need a KR-50 keyed part
> Message-ID: <412866E6-6498-4E42-BEF2-E6DD429724FA at sssnet.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> Denton
>
> I currently have about six of these keyers, but the one I purchased matches the eggshell white of the triton II. It?s missing the paddle.
>
> Mike, WB8VGE
>
>
> Mike Bryce
> prosolar at sssnet.com
>
>
>
>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 9:33 PM, denton sprague <denton at oregontrail.net> wrote:
>>
>> would you be willing to settle for the whole keyed? think have one in my TT stuff box?
>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Mike Bryce <prosolar at sssnet.com <mailto:prosolar at sssnet.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well guys, the subject line says it all
>>>
>>> I?m in need of one of the plastic finger pieces used by the KR50 keyer. Any one parting out or has one laying around?
>>>
>>> Thanks?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> WB8VGE
>>>
>>> Mike, WB8VGE
>>> SunLight Energy Systems
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