[TenTec] notch filter for Eagle?
dukeshifi at comcast.net
Thu Jul 20 10:58:48 EDT 2017
The same could be said for super dynamic range, especially close-in dynamic range. 99% of the time, no one needs it.
In reality, a Triton IV will hear almost everything that a front line technology direct conversion DSP radio will hear, most of the time.
I only care even a little about a notch filter less than 1% of the time so I agree with the concept of what you are saying.
But, if I have a feature, and I have a choice of having that feature work well or not work well, why not opt for having it working well?
Until my old Pro 2 breaks beyond the repairs I can do with parts from my extensive parts pile, there is not much incentive to move forward in technology at this point.
I have had maybe a dozen Orions of both flavors, four Eagles, probably 20 Omni 6 radios of various flavors, two 7600’s, dozens of Pro series, all of which sat on the desk being evaluated prior to my selling them to tinker with others. Thus I have had pretty good opportunity to make comparisons. For the pittance I have in this box, I’m good for now…
It doesn’t fare well in Sherwood’s ratings though, and both Orion and Eagle fare better.
For me, end of thread.
> On Jul 20, 2017, at 9:35 AM, Joe Papworth via TenTec <tentec at contesting.com> wrote:
> Quick poll:
> How often do those on the list actually need or use your notch filters?
> Most of my QSOs are CW contest QSOs.
> Many times the bands are so crowded that a ginsu knife would come in handy and yet I rarely need the notch filter.
> I'm just curious...
> Later, Joe, K8MP
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> From: Dukes HiFi <dukeshifi at comcast.net>
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> Cc: Greg S <oldlongbeard at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Thu, Jul 20, 2017 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] notch filter for Eagle?
> Since your SDR has notch inside the AGC loop, it must not be all that difficult to accomplish. Of course, I do not have sufficient knowledge of SDR designs to know how they manage AGC or notch functions.
> Too bad no one is writing software for the Orion anymore. It would be nice if that change could be done. I might even buy one then...
> I should have added the caveat in my remark regarding the relative uselessness of a notch filter outside the AGC line by saying “useless to ME”. Others are certainly free to believe that an external notch filter (that is, external to the AGC loop) is equally effective (manual or otherwise).
> This topic was beaten to death maybe 30 to 40 years or so ago when relatively decent external filters, such as the Autek and later on when DSP devices were introduced. They were pitched as offering Collins or Drake-like performance in otherwise mediocre receivers. They didn’t, but they did make operation less annoying to some degree. They also worked pretty well if you turned off the AGC and used the RF gain pot to compensate for variations in signal strength.
> PS: Icom is the leader here in direct SDR, FOR ME. The performance is not there yet but I have zero interest in needing to have my PC on to run my radio. The 7300 does not need a PC to work, the others do. They are headed in the right direction. If Ten Sec ever introduces a new radio, likely it will head in that direction too.
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