[TenTec] When can I buy a new transceiver?

[Rodney]

I keep my 011, no computers on my ham desk, I have one on my work bench and 
that is enough.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Greg S via TenTec
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2018 12:34 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Cc: Greg S
Subject: Re: [TenTec] When can I buy a new transceiver?

A certified pre-owned Flex 6400 is $1900. With front display (6400M) is 
$2900. With warranty and latest software, and all updates completed. That’s 
far from $6000. I can remember when JUST a touch screen of this resolution 
cost that. Things are changing fast. Keep up, or get out of the way....or 
the market will move you out of the way.
73- Greg, KC8HXO

Sent from my Linux device

> On Jul 28, 2018, at 09:05, Byron Cordes via TenTec <tentec at contesting.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Yes the Orion doesn’t have all the bells it does have the whistle! I do 
> like the way it handles 160  . Turn down gain 1/2 or so and signals weak 
> and strong sound great.
> Yes the Orion is showing it’s age! But it was the best radio out there for 
> years! Maybe there are better radios now but not many and none for the 
> price of a used Orion
>  Myself I use 4 different radios each has there high and low ‘s  .  I 
> think radios are a lot like antennas , one can never have to many !
>  What will be interesting is seeing where the radio manufacturers go from 
> here . Icom has changed the game with the 7300 (sold thousands!) a good 
> radio that does a lot of things good . What will Yaesu Kenwood and the 
> others bring out? There’s a small market for $6000 radios( Flex Elecraft 
> and the other flag ships) or will the manufacturers slowly have sales go 
> down (because of brand loyalty )
> There might be fewer manufacturers in 5 years , there will thousands of 
> used 7300 where those owner might want to up grade. There are just a few 
> new Ham getting in to this sport and a lot of us are old. So probably less 
> Radio sales ,less money , less manufacturers to build less radio . 
> Maybe I better get another Orion !
> Byron AC9PA
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 2:12 PM, Keith Hanson <ac9s at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I purchased an OII at Dayton the first year they came out and couldn't 
>> have been more happy.  It was fully loaded including the remote pod and 
>> served me well for many years.  The only thing it appeared to lack was a 
>> reasonable panadapter / waterfall display which Ten Tec faithfully 
>> promised me year after year at Dayton and never delivered. I would have 
>> been happy with the equivalent of my 756Pro display, but it never 
>> appeared. However, time marches; I replaced the OII in the main position 
>> with a Flex 6700 / Maestrocombination several years ago and relegated the 
>> Orion to back-up duty.
>>
>> Honestly, with the exception of AGC slope, I find the Flex to be superior 
>> in every respect.  I have done numerous A/B comparisons and I don't think 
>> there was ever a time when the Orion receiver would have delivered better 
>> than the Flex.  The Flex Panafall display, a combination panadapter / 
>> waterfall, makes pile-ups easy and is wonderful on "dead" bands.  I 
>> rarely listen to the "split" anymore in a pile-up, I can tell where DX is 
>> listening by spreading the pile-up across the entire screen and seeing 
>> calling stations.  Plus the ability to look at all the bands 
>> simultaneously during a contest changes that part of the equation.
>>
>> Bottom line for me now is that although I have lobbied for on OIII for 
>> years I don't think I would buy one if it were offered - unless somehow 
>> it were to beat Flex SmartSDR at its game.  That is doubtful, but I'll 
>> keep an open mind.
>>
>> Keith - AC9S
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