[TenTec] TenTec Digest, Vol 212, Issue 1
Bob McGraw K4TAX
rmcgraw at blomand.net
Sat Aug 1 13:14:47 EDT 2020
As one that has repaired many radios for others over the years , I find
that radios which sit on the shelf on in a box "being saved" are simply
deteriorating in the box or on the shelf. Make it a point to power up
and use these items at least once a month. If you aren't going to do
that, then sell it or give it to some deserving person or
organization. Your local radio club is an example and have them sell
it with proceeds to the club. There's tax advantages to all concerned.
The radios are just like your emergency power generator. If not started
and used at least once a month, when you really need its service, it
likely won't start.
Modern radios are more and more complex. Typically this occurs as
demands for features and options from users are passed along to the
companies. If one isn't going to use the "latest and greatest" radio
every day and keep abreast of the features and options and how they are
used, then perhaps you really don't need a "bragging rights" radio.
Where as, I find, a more basic radio is better suited for the casual user.
While it may be impressive to have 15 transceivers and amps on the desk,
do you really need these? Are you able to effectively and efficiently
operate these? I seriously doubt it.
For the typical ham, one or two transceivers and associated accessories
is more than adequate. And with these one can keep and use them on a
regular basis with a high level of operator efficiency.
73
Bob, K4TAX
On 8/1/2020 11:22 AM, N4IJ wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback guys. Seems like it would be wise for me to keep
> it.... As for the question about
> ringing on the CW filters - I have 500hz and 250hz in both IF's. I never
> noticed ringing in the first place, so the roofing filter just made
> performance a bit better. I agree with those about ease of operation.
> With my FTDX5k it is a little irritating to have so many options.
> Plug the 6+ in and go. Guess I should hook it up so the electrons won't
> forget how to act.
>
> 73 Doug N4IJ
>
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>> 1. OMNI 6+ general value present day? (N4IJ)
>> 2. Re: OMNI 6+ general value present day? (Byron Cordes)
>> 3. Re: OMNI 6+ general value present day? (Phil Erickson)
>> 4. Fw: OMNI 6+ general value present day? (Mike Cumbo)
>> 5. Fw: OMNI 6+ general value present day? (Mike Cumbo)
>> 6. Re: OMNI 6+ general value present day? (Malcolm McLeman)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 11:37:16 -0500
>> From: N4IJ <dougn4ij at gmail.com>
>> To: tentec at contesting.com
>> Subject: [TenTec] OMNI 6+ general value present day?
>> Message-ID:
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>> It would seem like I am advertising my OMNI6+ on this list but I have not
>> seen any listed on QTH or ebay lately for pricing. Right now am using my
>> OMNI6+ as backup to my FTDX5000MPL, so it sits on the shelf all the time
>> and does not get used. Fully loaded with filters, roofing filter, no
>> scratches, etc. For what I have seen a long time ago, I would think it is
>> worth more to me than letting it go - especially since I am 90% CW
>> operator.
>>
>> 73 Doug N4IJ
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 12:40:48 -0500
>> From: Byron Cordes <byroncordes at icloud.com>
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI 6+ general value present day?
>> Message-ID: <B5F16F79-69CE-4449-9391-7244ACD312F7 at icloud.com>
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>> You better use it or you?ll lose it! Hihi
>> Probably the hardest thing on a radio is not using it. I got a Orion and
>> put the Omni VI on the shelf . Well it happen A9 board caps gone bad in the
>> Orion . No big deal ordered caps got down Omni. Power up and no vfo .Ok
>> case off unplug and plug a few connectors and where back going just in
>> time for our 160 gathering. About ten mins in radio starts acting up . A
>> tap on top back going , 5 more minutes all stop!
>> Spent the rest off night cleaning those pins. Backup and working fine
>> caps came in and again Omni goes on shelf. 8 months or so Orion down again
>> bad pin connections put Orion on bench to clean all pins upfront. Get down
>> Omni (no work) same as last time . Cleaned pins and back going again . AH
>> As far as worth in there day they where a fine radio (leading edge dsp)
>> but there time has gone. You can pickup a IC 7300 for under $1000 used I
>> bought for $600 . And no I would not give $600 for a Omni. Just seen a Ten
>> Tec VII sell for $600 about two weeks ago . I sold a Orion for $660 . The
>> radio market is saturated with old radios . Even the high end radios have
>> been coming down. And then the virus thing hit!
>> 73s Byron AC9PA
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jul 31, 2020, at 11:37 AM, N4IJ <dougn4ij at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?It would seem like I am advertising my OMNI6+ on this list but I have not
>> seen any listed on QTH or ebay lately for pricing. Right now am using my
>> OMNI6+ as backup to my FTDX5000MPL, so it sits on the shelf all the time
>> and does not get used. Fully loaded with filters, roofing filter, no
>> scratches, etc. For what I have seen a long time ago, I would think it is
>> worth more to me than letting it go - especially since I am 90% CW
>> operator.
>>
>> 73 Doug N4IJ
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>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 13:54:04 -0400
>> From: Phil Erickson <phil.erickson at gmail.com>
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI 6+ general value present day?
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>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> I have a Omni VI+ that needs some repair (a couple unstable LOs) so I had
>> the same question as you did, assuming I can find the problem. I'll be
>> interested to follow the answers.
>>
>> 73
>> Phil W1PJE
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 12:37 PM N4IJ <dougn4ij at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It would seem like I am advertising my OMNI6+ on this list but I have not
>>> seen any listed on QTH or ebay lately for pricing. Right now am using my
>>> OMNI6+ as backup to my FTDX5000MPL, so it sits on the shelf all the time
>>> and does not get used. Fully loaded with filters, roofing filter, no
>>> scratches, etc. For what I have seen a long time ago, I would think it is
>>> worth more to me than letting it go - especially since I am 90% CW
>>> operator.
>>>
>>> 73 Doug N4IJ
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>> --
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>> Phil Erickson
>> phil.erickson at gmail.com
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:20:17 -0400
>> From: "Mike Cumbo" <mcumbo at triad.rr.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: [TenTec] Fw: OMNI 6+ general value present day?
>> Message-ID: <C2B5EE3AAA9146EEB12ADD3D9C2DECF0 at D74TDT61>
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>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Cumbo" <mcumbo at triad.rr.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 1:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI 6+ general value present day?
>>
>>
>>> I bought the 6+ I am now using for $400 including power supply, filters &
>>> manual. It was an estate item at a hamfest a year or more ago and is very
>>> clean. I think that is a bottom dollar price for your reference. If you
>> are
>>> a CW guy, add the Inrad roofing filter kit and you just can't do much
>>> better on CW, plus it is just fun and easy to use. You will regret
>> selling
>>> it. A question for the group, when I added the CW roofing filter kit it
>>> seemed to greatly reduce ringing when using the narrow IF filters. Has
>>> anyone else noticed that?
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, Mike Cumbo, ND4S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "N4IJ" <dougn4ij at gmail.com>
>>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 12:37 PM
>>> Subject: [TenTec] OMNI 6+ general value present day?
>>>
>>>
>>>> It would seem like I am advertising my OMNI6+ on this list but I have
>> not
>>>> seen any listed on QTH or ebay lately for pricing. Right now am using my
>>>> OMNI6+ as backup to my FTDX5000MPL, so it sits on the shelf all the time
>>>> and does not get used. Fully loaded with filters, roofing filter, no
>>>> scratches, etc. For what I have seen a long time ago, I would think it
>> is
>>>> worth more to me than letting it go - especially since I am 90% CW
>>>> operator.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Doug N4IJ
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2020 16:20:42 -0400
>> From: "Mike Cumbo" <mcumbo at triad.rr.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: [TenTec] Fw: OMNI 6+ general value present day?
>> Message-ID: <CE53FF2232B5450590B1EE3C4B8E6976 at D74TDT61>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Cumbo" <mcumbo at triad.rr.com>
>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 1:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI 6+ general value present day?
>>
>>
>>> Should have read closer, you have the roofing filter. Have you noticed a
>>> decrease in ringing using the narrow IF filters?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike Cumbo, ND4S
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "N4IJ" <dougn4ij at gmail.com>
>>> To: <tentec at contesting.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 12:37 PM
>>> Subject: [TenTec] OMNI 6+ general value present day?
>>>
>>>
>>>> It would seem like I am advertising my OMNI6+ on this list but I have
>> not
>>>> seen any listed on QTH or ebay lately for pricing. Right now am using my
>>>> OMNI6+ as backup to my FTDX5000MPL, so it sits on the shelf all the time
>>>> and does not get used. Fully loaded with filters, roofing filter, no
>>>> scratches, etc. For what I have seen a long time ago, I would think it
>> is
>>>> worth more to me than letting it go - especially since I am 90% CW
>>>> operator.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Doug N4IJ
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2020 13:22:02 +0200
>> From: Malcolm McLeman <f5vbu at cegetel.net>
>> To: Byron Cordes via TenTec <tentec at contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI 6+ general value present day?
>> Message-ID: <bdc89458-56b5-228f-5e43-955be90d19f4 at cegetel.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Before parting with your Omni VI may I suggest you consider one thing.
>>> Omni VI not only its attributes as a receiver with unsurpassable QSK
>>> but how it sounds on air? CW to others.
>>> When Japanese transceivers became popular in? the '60's they were
>>> primarily intended for SSB? with CW as an appendage and remember the
>>> FT101 reviewed as such.? Things have changed since then but I still
>>> maintain Japaese rigs do not in any way compare in purity of CW note?
>>> (imo Icom worst) with TT or Elecraft'
>>> I regularly check my O6 on air keying via a SDR in PA and it is second
>>> to none.
>> 73
>> Malcolm F5VBU
>>
>>
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