[TenTec] Fwd: PC + MicroHam/MicroKeyer + Orion II: 20w out?

Sun Nov 14 19:42:46 EST 2021

Bob,

TNX for the reply (and your replies to many questions on this list)!

But...
>> Run WSJT-X as a stand-a-lone application 

Should have added that I'm running them stand-alone
(either JTDX or WSJT - they behave the same).

>> set the levels set correctly.   
I think I have everything set for maximum.

>> The fact you can get it working using the SP function says the audio is low getting to the radio.
Right.

>> Or the radio AUX gain is set too low.
As noted, AUX gain set to 100 (max)

The issue maybe the MicroHam/MicroKeyer.
That's why it was in the subject line.
(it's an older model,
but does fine for rig control and RTTY and CW).
Haven't tried SSB DVK through it for years.

W3DQ asked you about the Orion and FT8 some time ago.
That's why I included your exchange with him.

Obviously, I'm somewhat ahead of where W3DQ was,
actually getting some output (and working people).
Oh, Eric, w3dq, is a local, good friend.
Now uses a K3 for most operating.

I have an FTdx5000, but it lives at the W3LPL super-station
for the major contest season. I'm part of the multi-team.
And I do SS/SSB from there.

I had a round with Joe Subich, W4TV, about the
Microham/MicroKeyer some time ago.
Maybe I'll bug him again.

Any additional thoughts would be appreciated.

Bob, w3idt

.......
. Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
.
. w3idt at comcast.net
. w3idt at arrl.net
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On 11/13/2021 5:01 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> Run WSJT-X as a stand-a-lone application and get the levels set correctly.   The fact you can get it working using the SP function says the audio is low getting to the radio.  Or the radio AUX gain is set too low.
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Bob, W3IDT <w3idt at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Does any have this combination?
>> Or remember anything about this combination?
>>
>> Trying to use JTDX/WSJT-X.
>> Simple problem is that I can only get about 20 watts out of the Orion II using the TUNE function in JTDX/WSJT with, I think, all controls set for "maximum smoke" :
>>
>> 1. PC LineOut/Speakers to MH/MK SoundOut.
>> (that is correct, though it appears to be reversed.)
>>
>> 2. PC [Sound][Speakers] maximum volume both Left and Right.
>>
>> 3. JTDX/WSJT [Settings][Audio] Output = Speakers;
>> Left, Mono, Both -> 20w Power; Right -> no power.
>>
>> 4. JTDX/WSJT power slider at Maximum.
>>
>> 5. MH/MK set to special Orion II VOICE = CBA specification
>> (to feed PC audio out to Orion II AUX audio in).
>>
>> 6. MH/MK internal pot tried at MIN and MAX;
>> power varies, MAX is best.
>>
>> 7. MH/MK external pot at MAX.
>> Power varies, MAX is best.
>>
>> 8. Orion II SP= Off and TX EQ = 0dB
>>
>> 9. Orion II [Menu][SSB] Audio Source
>> = AUX or BOTH -> 20w power
>> = MIC -> no power
>>
>> 10. Orion II [Menu][SSB] AUX input gain
>> power varies, 100 -> 20 Watts.
>>
>> Rig / CAT control, RTTY (FSK), and CW work fine, 100W out.
>> I can actually work FT8 stations with the 20w,
>> including 9J2BS (Zambia) just today.
>> But still . . .
>>
>> UPDATE: If I turn the SP up to about 6,
>> I get full power out.
>> But... SP is a no-no for FT8.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Bob, w3idt
>> Oh, and I've studied this old email to W3DQ who had similar problems.
>> Can't see anything I'm doing wrong.
>>
>> .......
>> . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
>> .
>> . w3idt at comcast.net
>> . w3idt at arrl.net
>> ........
>>
>>> On 11/10/2021 11:28 AM, Eric Rosenberg wrote:
>>> Haven't gone through my notes, but ran across this.
>>> Hope it helps a bit!
>>> ------ Forwarded Message ------
>>> From: "Bob McGraw" <rmcgraw at blomand.net <mailto:rmcgraw at blomand.net>>
>>> To: "Eric Rosenberg" <ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com <mailto:ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com>>
>>> Sent: 2/10/2021 1:05:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] FT8/FST4 with an Orion 565
>>> Eric:
>>> In general you will need an audio interface such as the Tentec 712 {if you can find one}, or a Signalink USB.  There are other brands.  If you order a new Signalink USB, do get the matching cable for the Tentec ACC port.   This handles the audio to and from the computer along with a PTT command.
>>> As to CAT interface, you will need either a RS-232 to USB converter cable using the FTDI chip or {highly unlikely} your computer has a RS-232 port.  This communicates control of the radio.
>>> Select the Aux TX input to LINE INPUT.  Adjust the Line Gain to about 35.  Set the PWR to 100 watts and USB mode.  Adjust the Line Gain and/or the Signalink TX level, and /or the computer software {SPKR] level to about 35% or as needed to get about 50 to 75 watts in transmit mode.  Also, be sure you set any Speech Processing to OFF or to zero and any TX EQ to flat.  This is a MUST.
>>> The CAT command can initiate PTT or you can use the Signalink to initiate a PTT command.  Don't use both.    Also, do not set TX audio source to BOTH.   Use only Line input.
>>> 73
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>>> On 2/9/2021 9:50 PM, Eric Rosenberg wrote:
>>>> Is there a recommended setup for my Orion and WSJT-X's FT8 and FST4?
>>>> Thanks & 73,
>>>> Eric W3DQ
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