[TenTec] V3.033xe update... almost done

Wed Nov 17 16:56:13 EST 2021

Hi Bob

Yes as suggested by Wes the likely culprit for the remaining problem is the
Snaphat battery needing replacement.

I am glad that you have now got the rig working properly.

73

Barry  VK2BJ

On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 07:49, Wes Attaway <wesattaway at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> While you are doing all this you might want to replace the SnapHat battery.
>
>      -----------------------------------
>       Wes Attaway (N5WA)
>            Shreveport, LA
>      -----------------------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces+wesattaway=
> bellsouth.net at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob, W3IDT
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 2:18 PM
> To: n4py3 at earthlink.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] V3.033xe update... almost done
>
> Carl, others,
>
> I had done the RAM CLEAR and MASTER RESET at least once already after
> loading the 3.033xe update, but doing it again seems to have cured the
> no audio issue.
>
> Now...
> Each time I turn on the radio, it says "Master Reset Complete" (in
> addition to asking about the subRX). And, indeed, it does a Master Reset.
>
> Even though I save my CW and SSB settings for JTDX/WSJT in USER1 with
> the long push. After a power-up and a short USER1 push, the radio says
> it is restoring the settings but, in fact, it does not do so.
> So I have to manually do the settings again. Ditto USER2.
>
> Any clue?
>
> .......
> . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
> .
> . w3idt at comcast.net
> . w3idt at arrl.net
> ........
>
> On 11/17/2021 1:24 PM, Carl Moreschi wrote:
> > Perform the 3 resets which are:
> > 1) Power off Orion.
> > 2) Power On holding the VFO B LCK button.
> > 3) Continue holding LCK button until the radio says "Battery Failure".
> > 4) Power off Orion.
> > 5) Power on holding "Main RX/TX" button.
> > 6) Continue holding this button until the radio says reset complete.
> > 7) Do not clear any settings when asked to do so.
> > 8) Power the Orion off and back on one more time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Carl Moreschi N4PY
> > 127 River Moss Way
> > Hertford, NC 27944
> > www.n4py.com
> >
> > On 11/17/2021 1:12 PM, Bob, W3IDT wrote:
> >> Barry,
> >>
> >> Thanks for your note.
> >> As per the new note from Bob, k4tax, he sent me several real 566
> >> update files. (The one I used was inside a "566..." zip, but turned
> >> out to be for the 565! Why a 565 file inside a 566 zip?)
> >> Result was a frozen radio.
> >> Alive now with Bob's update file, except for audio.
> >>
> >> Now have no audio. Correct antenna, [AUDIO] set to left=main,
> >> right=main, [MAIN AF] increases/ decrease "hiss".
> >> Need to investigate.
> >> May try an earlier update file.
> >>
> >> Bob, w3idt
> >>
> >>
> >> .......
> >> . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
> >> .
> >> . w3idt at comcast.net
> >> . w3idt at arrl.net
> >> ........
> >>
> >> On 11/17/2021 4:56 AM, Barry Simpson wrote:
> >>> Hi Bob
> >>>
> >>> I am not sure from your description where you got your 3.026 file.
> >>> Did you
> >>> unzip it first of all ?
> >>>
> >>> I think I am using 3,033xe but I will check tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> If it were me, I would do nothing until I had a known working version 3
> >>> file. I can direct you to or provide you with one of those.
> >>>
> >>> Then I would see if I could put the rig into the update mode again
> >>> which I
> >>> suspect should be possible. Then I would try to update with the new
> >>> version
> >>> 3 file.
> >>>
> >>> I have never had a problem updating or regressing to an earlier V3
> >>> version
> >>> with any of my four Orion 2's.
> >>>
> >>> I will get back to you tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Barry  VK2BJ
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 17 Nov 2021 at 07:40, Bob, W3IDT <w3idt at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> After some searching re my FT8 audio problems with the Orion II, I
> >>>> stumbled upon the need to update the software from version 2 to
> version
> >>>> 3. (The radio was bequeathed to me; I am not the original owner.)
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. I found the exe file inside the 566-setup-3.026exe_(1).zip file.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2a. Used the USER2 + POWER sequence to place the radio in Flash Update
> >>>> Mode, and ran the program: 10810 lines updated.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2b. At the end, the display had an truncated Ten-Tec logo:
> >>>> two vertical black lines, a wider vertical red line, then two more
> >>>> vertical black lines.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3a. Used the VFO-B_LCK + POWER sequence to start the "RAM clear"
> >>>> process.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3b. Nothing happened after several minutes of holding the VFO-B-LCK
> >>>> button: No "Battery Failure" message, as per the instructions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Radio now powers up with the truncated ten-tec logo as in (2b).
> >>>> And is, of course, dead.
> >>>>
> >>>> NOW WHAT??
> >>>> Was I impatient with the RAM Clear?
> >>>> Hold VFO-B-LCK longer?
> >>>> What else?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> .......
> >>>> . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
> >>>> .
> >>>> . w3idt at comcast.net
> >>>> . w3idt at arrl.net
> >>>> ........
> >>>>
> >>>> On 11/14/2021 8:26 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> >>>>> I would double check the connections between the computer audio
> output
> >>>> and the DIN connector on the back of the Orion.    Maybe  for a wiring
> >>>> error?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are you using any audio interface? Signalink or such?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 73
> >>>>> Bob, K4TAX
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Bob, W3IDT <w3idt at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bob,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> TNX for the reply (and your replies to many questions on this list)!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But...
> >>>>>>>> Run WSJT-X as a stand-a-lone application
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Should have added that I'm running them stand-alone
> >>>>>> (either JTDX or WSJT - they behave the same).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> set the levels set correctly.
> >>>>>> I think I have everything set for maximum.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The fact you can get it working using the SP function says the
> >>>>>>>> audio
> >>>> is low getting to the radio.
> >>>>>> Right.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Or the radio AUX gain is set too low.
> >>>>>> As noted, AUX gain set to 100 (max)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The issue maybe the MicroHam/MicroKeyer.
> >>>>>> That's why it was in the subject line.
> >>>>>> (it's an older model,
> >>>>>> but does fine for rig control and RTTY and CW).
> >>>>>> Haven't tried SSB DVK through it for years.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> W3DQ asked you about the Orion and FT8 some time ago.
> >>>>>> That's why I included your exchange with him.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Obviously, I'm somewhat ahead of where W3DQ was,
> >>>>>> actually getting some output (and working people).
> >>>>>> Oh, Eric, w3dq, is a local, good friend.
> >>>>>> Now uses a K3 for most operating.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have an FTdx5000, but it lives at the W3LPL super-station
> >>>>>> for the major contest season. I'm part of the multi-team.
> >>>>>> And I do SS/SSB from there.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I had a round with Joe Subich, W4TV, about the
> >>>>>> Microham/MicroKeyer some time ago.
> >>>>>> Maybe I'll bug him again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any additional thoughts would be appreciated.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Bob, w3idt
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> .......
> >>>>>> . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
> >>>>>> .
> >>>>>> . w3idt at comcast.net
> >>>>>> . w3idt at arrl.net
> >>>>>> ........
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 11/13/2021 5:01 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> >>>>>>> Run WSJT-X as a stand-a-lone application and get the levels set
> >>>> correctly.   The fact you can get it working using the SP function
> >>>> says the
> >>>> audio is low getting to the radio.  Or the radio AUX gain is set too
> >>>> low.
> >>>>>>> Bob, K4TAX
> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Bob, W3IDT <w3idt at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Does any have this combination?
> >>>>>>>> Or remember anything about this combination?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Trying to use JTDX/WSJT-X.
> >>>>>>>> Simple problem is that I can only get about 20 watts out of the
> >>>>>>>> Orion
> >>>> II using the TUNE function in JTDX/WSJT with, I think, all controls
> >>>> set for
> >>>> "maximum smoke" :
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1. PC LineOut/Speakers to MH/MK SoundOut.
> >>>>>>>> (that is correct, though it appears to be reversed.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2. PC [Sound][Speakers] maximum volume both Left and Right.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 3. JTDX/WSJT [Settings][Audio] Output = Speakers;
> >>>>>>>> Left, Mono, Both -> 20w Power; Right -> no power.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 4. JTDX/WSJT power slider at Maximum.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 5. MH/MK set to special Orion II VOICE = CBA specification
> >>>>>>>> (to feed PC audio out to Orion II AUX audio in).
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 6. MH/MK internal pot tried at MIN and MAX;
> >>>>>>>> power varies, MAX is best.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 7. MH/MK external pot at MAX.
> >>>>>>>> Power varies, MAX is best.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 8. Orion II SP= Off and TX EQ = 0dB
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 9. Orion II [Menu][SSB] Audio Source
> >>>>>>>> = AUX or BOTH -> 20w power
> >>>>>>>> = MIC -> no power
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 10. Orion II [Menu][SSB] AUX input gain
> >>>>>>>> power varies, 100 -> 20 Watts.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Rig / CAT control, RTTY (FSK), and CW work fine, 100W out.
> >>>>>>>> I can actually work FT8 stations with the 20w,
> >>>>>>>> including 9J2BS (Zambia) just today.
> >>>>>>>> But still . . .
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> UPDATE: If I turn the SP up to about 6,
> >>>>>>>> I get full power out.
> >>>>>>>> But... SP is a no-no for FT8.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Bob, w3idt
> >>>>>>>> Oh, and I've studied this old email to W3DQ who had similar
> >>>>>>>> problems.
> >>>>>>>> Can't see anything I'm doing wrong.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> .......
> >>>>>>>> . Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
> >>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>> . w3idt at comcast.net
> >>>>>>>> . w3idt at arrl.net
> >>>>>>>> ........
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 11/10/2021 11:28 AM, Eric Rosenberg wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Haven't gone through my notes, but ran across this.
> >>>>>>>>> Hope it helps a bit!
> >>>>>>>>> ------ Forwarded Message ------
> >>>>>>>>> From: "Bob McGraw" <rmcgraw at blomand.net
> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:rmcgraw at blomand.net
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> To: "Eric Rosenberg" <ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com <mailto:
> >>>> ericrosenberg.dc at gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: 2/10/2021 1:05:27 PM
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] FT8/FST4 with an Orion 565
> >>>>>>>>> Eric:
> >>>>>>>>> In general you will need an audio interface such as the Tentec
> 712
> >>>> {if you can find one}, or a Signalink USB.  There are other brands.
> >>>> If you
> >>>> order a new Signalink USB, do get the matching cable for the Tentec
> ACC
> >>>> port.   This handles the audio to and from the computer along with a
> >>>> PTT
> >>>> command.
> >>>>>>>>> As to CAT interface, you will need either a RS-232 to USB
> >>>>>>>>> converter
> >>>> cable using the FTDI chip or {highly unlikely} your computer has a
> >>>> RS-232
> >>>> port.  This communicates control of the radio.
> >>>>>>>>> Select the Aux TX input to LINE INPUT.  Adjust the Line Gain to
> >>>> about 35.  Set the PWR to 100 watts and USB mode.  Adjust the Line
> Gain
> >>>> and/or the Signalink TX level, and /or the computer software {SPKR]
> >>>> level
> >>>> to about 35% or as needed to get about 50 to 75 watts in transmit
> mode.
> >>>> Also, be sure you set any Speech Processing to OFF or to zero and
> >>>> any TX EQ
> >>>> to flat.  This is a MUST.
> >>>>>>>>> The CAT command can initiate PTT or you can use the Signalink to
> >>>> initiate a PTT command.  Don't use both.    Also, do not set TX audio
> >>>> source to BOTH.   Use only Line input.
> >>>>>>>>> 73
> >>>>>>>>> Bob, K4TAX
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2/9/2021 9:50 PM, Eric Rosenberg wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Is there a recommended setup for my Orion and WSJT-X's FT8 and
> >>>>>>>>>> FST4?
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks & 73,
> >>>>>>>>>> Eric W3DQ
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