[TOEC] The future for Scandinavian Cup in SAC Contest?

Mon Nov 8 01:18:18 PST 2010

Hello all!

Well, maybe we do not need any changes. From my point of view it is fun with
the cup and to win a few of the 52 years, but the main idea would be to
still increase the activity totally from the Scandinavian countries. The cup
is more important as a stimulator for the activity in my eyes.

73 de R3/SM6LRR, Mats

2010/11/8 Tomi Ylinen <tomi.ylinen at luukku.com>

> Well, to my opinion we do not need to do anything. Scandinavian Cup can be
> as it is. We can congratulate you swedes that you beat us finns. Maybe your
> good activity is based on agitation to win the Cup. That way the Cup works.
> But it does not work for any other countries but SM and OH. There is not
> enough activity or stations in other countries.
>
> I don't see that as a problem. Cup is more or less statistical. Personally
> OH winning the Cup does not give any kicks, on the other hand loosing it
> does not hurt (sorry boys:-).
>
> To me it has always been the personal race. It's like in F1 the
> Constructor's championships: who cares. What counts is the one to win
> driver's championship. With this I'm not comparing myself to F1-drivers:-)
>
> SAC gives us the chance to be on the right end of pile ups. That is the
> main goal of the event.
>
> Tomi OH6EI
>
>
> Mats Strandberg kirjoitti 07.11.2010 kello 21:45:
>  > Hello all Scandinavian/Nordic contesters!
> >
> > A few days remain until the logs for SAC SSB 2010 has to be submitted.
> >
> > We can however already now see that Finland has an exceptionally
> >  high points
> > per log advantage. This proves that OH is more endurant in SAC than any
> > other Scandinavian country. It also (most likely) proves that there
> >  is more
> > aluminium at a higher height in the Finnish locations compared to other
> > Scandinavian countries.
> >
> > Congratulations to Finland for excellent score with considerably fewer
> > operators!  (see below)
> >
> > Sweden is the OVERALL winner for the second year in row thanks to an
> > excellent amount of logs (more than half of the logs totally are
> >  Swedish).
> > Also the strong average point per log in the CW section made Sweden a
> > successful country already when the CW section was over.
> >
> > The reason for this email is to open the discussion how we can
> >  improve SAC
> > in the eyes of Non-Scandinavian participants - and also to inspire other
> > countries than Sweden and Finland to have a higher participation in SAC.
> >
> > Sweden, Finland (with Aland and Market Reef) represent not less than
> >  90% of
> > all logs in SAC. This is NOT a good sign that participation from all
> > Scandinavian countries is more or less equal or representative to
> >  the amount
> > of hams in each country.
> >
> > How can we stimulate our Norwegian and Danish friends to be better
> >  active in
> > SAC???
> >
> > Iceland has on average quite a good participation in SAC, but 7 and 5
> > million points in SAC from Norway and Denmark seems at least to me
> >  as a sign
> > of non-sufficient promotion for contesting in those countries.
> >
> > The Scandinavian Cup was initiated to be a stimulator for national
> > competition within the Scandinavian/Nordic countries, but what we
> >  have seen
> > the past years is a development where SM and OH is fighting for the
> >  1st and
> > 2nd place, and where LA is always at a safe third place, and where OZ is
> > more or less fighting for the 4th place with OH0 (despite the fact that
> > Aland Islands has only 1/5 th (20 %) if the logs compared to OZ...
> >
> > This is not a satisfactory situation according to my personal opinion.
> >
> > Shall we remove the Scandinavian Cup from the SAC?  Shall we create a
> > "Finnkampen" concept where only SM and OH is competing (like in
> >  Athletics) -
> > or shall we try to boost the activity from ALL NORDIC/SCANDINAVIAN
> >  countries
> > the next year (SAC 2011) ???
> >
> > Norway and Denmark in this case need to make a FULL EFFORT in
> >  changing the
> > situation and by encouraging new hams to the field of contesting. I
> >  think
> > that active contesters in both Norway and Denmark agree that the
> >  potential
> > for improvement is huge...
> >
> > We are ready to help with ideas and suggestions. The Swedish
> >  improvement is
> > not based on huge investment in aluminium and steel, but rather a
> >  logical
> > development of raised promotion for contesting as such.
> >
> > Please have a look at www.hfcup.se and see that close to 300 Swedish
> > contesters are active in International contests on a regular basis. Such
> > similar national contests could also stimulate the participation in
> >  contests
> > from all other Scandinavian counties. It is only to "copy and paste" our
> > idea.  Steal with pride is another way to express it...
> >
> > If we can increase the total amount of Scandinavian  logs in SAC
> >  from the
> > present 544 logs to, let us say 750 logs, the interest for SAC will
> >  increase
> > accordingly... This does not seem like an impossible figure, BUT it
> >  requires
> > active promotion from the HF Contest Managers in all the countries.
> >
> > 73 de R3/SM6LRR, Mats
> >
> > SAC 2010 Scandinavian Cup (CW & SSB)
> > - Claimed Score
> >
> >   *Nr* *Country* *Number of logs* *Score* 1 Sweden 287 44.310.431 2
> >  Finland
> > 136 36.013.350 3 Norway 66 7.229.178 4 Denmark 35 4.911.727 5 Aland
> >  Islands
> > 8 4.543.473 6 Iceland 6 1.611.586 7 Faroe Islands 3 543.896 8
> >  Greenland 1
> > 507.964 9 Svalbard 1 332.785 10 Market Reef 1 13.615
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