Scott, Where is the thing resonant? I use an "L" which is about 45' vertical and about 85' horizontal. I have six 1/4~ length ground radials. My SWR is under 2:1 from 1.810 to about 1.900 and flat at 1.850... 73, Mark, W4MZ -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/topband.html Submissions: topband@contesting.com Administrative requests: topband-REQUEST@contesting.com Sponsored by Akorn Access, Inc & KM9P