I AGREE WITH YOU BOB. I HAVE A 45 FT TOP LOADED VERTICAL AND FROM HERE IN ARIZONA I HAVE WORKED A FAIR NUMBER OF EUROPEAN AND AFRICAN STATIONS THIS PAST SEASON AS WELL AS THE REGION. CU ON THE AIR SOME TIME. DON AE7H -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/topband.html Submissions: topband@contesting.com Administrative requests: topband-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-topband@contesting.com