I don't want to perpetuate this debate but need to say one thing regarding the flood of patriotic responses from our US friends. I WISH WE HAD THAT KIND OF LOVE FOR OUR COUNTRY!!!! Gerry VE6LB -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/topband.html Submissions: topband@contesting.com Administrative requests: topband-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-topband@contesting.com