If the guys on 1822.5 have been there for ages, why fight it? Why not get 9m0c to move up a bit, 1824.5 shouldnt be set in concrete. Still no joy here in between the east and west coast. Good luck. 73 Bob W7LR Montana -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/topband.html Submissions: topband@contesting.com Administrative requests: topband-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-topband@contesting.com