I sure agree with W8JI's comment about the so called " Cross Field Antenna " which orinally surfaced 20 years ago . Many of us tried to find which BC stations in Egypt used the system until we finally woke up. 73 all Jim ZL2JR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/topband.html Submissions: topband@contesting.com Administrative requests: topband-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-topband@contesting.com