Even with a=2 and k=0, nothing this morning until a few minutes after our sunrise (1444z), heard HL5CL at 1447z 569 on 1830.1 qso JA. He went qrt after that. 73 Bob W7LR -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/topband.html Submissions: topband@contesting.com Administrative requests: topband-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-topband@contesting.com