I've seen pros and cons of using pre-amps on flags/pennants and Beverages. Thought I might try one for grins on 160m. For those who use commercially available devices, who makes a good one? Larry Wi5A -- FAQ on WWW: http://www.contesting.com/topband.html Submissions: topband@contesting.com Administrative requests: topband-REQUEST@contesting.com Problems: owner-topband@contesting.com