Don, W7DD didn't mention where to download ICEPAC from. The latest version of ICEPAC (5 Mb, including VOACAP & REC533), user manual (730 kb in PDF format) and technical manual (400 kb in PDF format) are available for download from: http://elbert.its.bldrdoc.gov/pc_hf/hfwin32.html . 73, de Earl, K6SE