OOPS, my bad! I looked at the EZ-Nec plot on my antennas, and the take-off angle is 22 degrees, not 26 as stated in mt previous post. Getting old is.... Well you know. 73, Mike, W5UC *If you voted for Change & Hope, Bend over. You are about to receive your bounty.* http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/