Topband: Counterpoise very interresting
zr at jeremy.mv.com
Tue Nov 22 07:07:56 PST 2011
Cebik tended to be pedantic. Heck, he was a
college professor- duh! He certainly knew his
stuff, but his views were not necessarily
global at all times. Perception colors our
understanding of the world.
** Thats an understatement. I consider him one of the more blatant
plaigarizers who knew a lot less about antennas as he misled many to
I happend to be in a meeting with him in GA when the company team I was with
were making a presentation. His body language and questions gave a strong
impression of a blowhard which was somewhat confirmed by the looks others on
his side were giving him. The after the meeting discussions on my side were
rather emphatic about the above.
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Subject: Re: Topband: Counterpoise very interresting
> Cebik's paper on the counterpoise is interesting and
> perhaps useful, so far as it goes. I don't remember
> seeing any mention of voltage-fed antennas, however.
> If they are in that article, I missed them.
> Cebik mentions Woodrow Smith in connection with a
> 1948 antenna book. I don't know if this is the same
> 'Woody Smith', W6BCX, but I suspect it is. Woody
> Smith wrote an article in March 1948 CQ Magazine
> titled "Bet My Money on a Bobtail Beam." In that
> article, he is somewhat vague about the ground
> return for the center element, but is very clear
> that 'not much' of a ground is needed. In his
> Feb/Mar 1983 HR Mag. reprise of the Bobtail/Half
> Square antennas, he refers to the desirability of
> a 'ground screen', refraining from calling this
> small, rectangular grid a 'counterpoise'. But
> that's what it is, in today's usage. I called
> it that in my Bobtail pages, and will likely
> continue doing so.
> Moxon, G6XN also refers extensively to the
> counterpoise in his favored half wave vertical
> antennas, and in his case, is talking about a
> pretty tiny piece of metal indeed. See"
> "HF Antennas For All Locations." by G6XN.
> Cebik tended to be pedantic. Heck, he was a
> college professor- duh! He certainly knew his
> stuff, but his views were not necessarily
> global at all times. Perception colors our
> understanding of the world.
> Language is a living, growing thing. Cebik
> was probably right about the concept of the
> counterpoise having been 'muddied', but OTOH
> that horse is now long out of the barn.
> I very much doubt the word is going away any
> time soon, in ham 'circles'. Or squares or
> rectangles. Even elongated, skinny rectangles.
> I find K2AV's FCP (folded counterpoise) most
> intriguing, and I intend to give it a try here.
> My inverted L needs help. I am so over with
> crummy 'sparse radials'. What a waste. Also,
> I intend to shift more towards a longer L
> which more approximates voltage feed. Having
> a quarter wave L with the current point at
> ground level is just asking for poor
> performance IMO.
> 73, David K3KY
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