Topband: Electric Fence Post Insulators for FCP

Tue Aug 14 14:53:14 PDT 2012

Thanks Carl,   Great idea.

I enjoy reading your posts.

73

Jim / W1FMR

--- On Tue, 8/14/12, ZR <zr at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:

From: ZR <zr at jeremy.mv.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Electric Fence Post Insulators for FCP
To: "Jim F." <j_fitton at yahoo.com>, "Gregg Marco W6IZT" <w6izt1 at bellsouth.net>
Cc: "top Band" <topband at contesting.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 5:36 PM

The black fence insulators are about $4 for a package of 25 at a local feed and grain store. I get mine at Dodge Grain in Salem.

In days of old I used old dogbones that had way too many years outdoors and showed some UV or maybe RF damage during rain, etc.  Cut in half, drill into both, cut the head off a #6 or 8 self tapping screw, use pliers to hold to thread the insulator on and then screw into a tree trunk. Before they had affordable cordless drills I used a nail to start the hole in a tree.....still do when the damn battery is dead!

Hacksaw a slot wherever you want it before or after its in place.

Carl
KM1H

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim F." <j_fitton at yahoo.com>
To: "Gregg Marco W6IZT" <w6izt1 at bellsouth.net>
Cc: "top Band" <topband at contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Electric Fence Post Insulators for FCP

Greg,
That idea is so cool !

Do you think that the dogbone insulator is strong enough
if the wire end of the insulator was slotted on top so that the FCP
wire could be dropped into, instead of threaded through the hole ?

The FCP in my case will be on common property and may have to
come down now and then :-))

jim / W1FMR

--- On Tue, 8/14/12, Gregg Marco W6IZT <w6izt1 at bellsouth.net> wrote:

From: Gregg Marco W6IZT <w6izt1 at bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Topband: Electric Fence Post Insulators for FCP
To: topband at contesting.com
Date: Tuesday, August 14, 2012, 1:37 PM

I use a plastic dog bone insulator. I use a bolt that has a machine screw
thread on one end and a wood screw thread on the other (available at HD). I
drill the end of the dog bone to accept the machine thread and thread the
wood screw into a post, tree or whatever. I have not had a single failure in
over 10 years

Gregg
W6IZT

-----Original Message-----
From: topband-bounces at contesting.com [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com]
On Behalf Of SavageBR at aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 8:22 AM
To: w0uce at nc.rr.com; j_fitton at yahoo.com; topband at contesting.com;
richardstasiak at gmail.com
Cc: olinger at bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Topband: Electric Fence Post Insulators for FCP

I have used the plastic ones and still do on my beverage antennas.
However, I find that squirrels like to chew the ends off. They are good for
one or two yrs.
Bruce
AA4Z

In a message dated 8/13/2012 22:57:59 Eastern Daylight Time,
w0uce at nc.rr.com writes:

Electric Fence Post Insulators do work but... Check every so often, as
trees
grow the plastic insulators pop off the nails. This has happened to me
three times in the past three years. Not every one of them but this year
four popped. Two of them were on adjacent trees and allowed my double FCP
wires to twist together and short.

73,
Jack

Hi Rick,

My FCP will be in the woods in trees with the 2 element leg visible and the
3 element side in the trees to keep down visibility.

I will try these electric fence insulators mounted in trees. They allow
the
FCP to be
lifted and removed because of an open slot in the top of the insulator.
That is my plan anyway. The insulators are not ceramic but some kind of
plastic
but since I will be using low power hope that will not be a problem.

Maybe you could hang your FCP in such a way as to move it around and
experiment to see which way works out best for your lot.

I don't know how these details will come out on the list but if anyone
wants
them
email me.

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--- On Sat, 8/11/12, Rick ve3mm <richardstasiak at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Rick ve3mm <richardstasiak at gmail.com>
Subject: Topband: 160 M FCP Alternatives - Comments Invited
To: topband at contesting.com
Date: Saturday, August 11, 2012, 9:46 AM

Hello

I am planning a 160 M FCP and inverted L installation for the upcoming
winter season. The space available for both the inverted L and FCP are
limited and I have to make the installation neat to please the XYL.

I have a pressure treated board fence that can be used to support the FCP.
The fence runs along the back side of my lot (60 feet) and down the two
sides. I intend to manufacture pvc standoffs for the FCP that will be
mounted on the fence approximately 5 feet above ground.

As I see it, my FCP alternatives are as follows:

1) Mount the centre of FCP at a 90 degree intersection of two sides of the
fence. Each side of the FCP will be straight, but they will be oriented at
90 degrees to each other.

2) The FCP mounted on the 60 foot length of fence on the back side of my
lot with the last three feet of each side of the FCP wrapped on to the
adjacent sides of the fence, 90 degree bends at each end.

3) The FCP mounted on the same 60 foot length of fence but offset so that
one side of the FCP is in a straight plane and the end of the other is
folded at 90 degrees for the last 6 feet.

I would appreciate any comments from the group on which of these
alternatives will offer the best FCP performance.

Thanks and 73

Rick ve3mm
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