Topband: Spam:****, Re: Patience in ARRL 160 Contest

Herb Schoenbohm herbs at vitelcom.net
Tue Dec 4 16:54:26 EST 2012


Doung,  So many times I just hear the prefix and the suffix drops out or 
is covered by noise.  It maybe a mental thing as I have no other 
explanation where the prefix comes through time and time but the suffix 
is lost.  Since I know what the correct suffix is, sending only the 
missing information make so much sense and saves valuable time.  In such 
cases sending only the missing data is what I would recommend for 
stations struggling to get in the log as the prefix is already confirmed 
to both of the stations.  So many times DX-peditions will not get my 
call correctly and butcher a portion of it...like "KV4Z ur 5NN" to which 
I immediately reply "FZ...FZ...FZ KV4FZ K"   This procedure works every 
time especially layers deep in piles up.

Thanks for your remarks,


Herb, KV4FZ


On 12/4/2012 9:51 AM, Doug Renwick wrote:
> When a cw station asks for a fill I send my COMPLETE callsign.  Why?
>
> a) My memory keyer or logging program has my full callsign, no partial
> callsign.  I don't use the hand keyer just in case I have 'dead' fingers and
> make a mistake.
>
> b) It allows the other station to focus on my signal when other stations are
> calling at the same time near or on my frequency.
>
> c) It makes sure that the correct suffix is added to the prefix.
>
> d) It confirms my prefix if part of it is copied incorrectly.
>
> Patience is  needed when ones signal is subject to 160m QSB.  Sri Herb, I
> fully disagree.
>
> Doug
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I worked a whole bunch of Europeans in the 160 meter contest along with
> UA9's and even 4Z1UF who had a good signal. My pet peeve is that when I
> hear only a weaker stations prefix but miss the suffix and ask for a
> repeat and request for example "HB9 ?  AGN"  all I hear is the prefix
> before the suffix is in the noise.  The station knows i have the correct
> prefix and number but how do I get them just to send the missing portion
> which is crucial to completing the QSO?  Even if I send HB9??? they
> return with de HB9### and the process repeats.  If in such circumstances
> once the calling station realizes I have the correct prefix all they
> need do is send the two or three letters of the suffix several times.
> Resending the prefix is not helpful in high noise or qrm situation.  I
> have tried SFX? SFX? but many stations are confused by that and keep
> sending their whole call. So here is my advice in just difficult
> circumstance:
>
> Do *not* repeat your whole call if the other station has the correct
> prefix and all they need is the remaining portion.  I just wish more
> stations on TB would do this as it would enable them getting in the log
> correctly and save time.  Time length of an opening to some parts of the
> world is everything in a crowded contest.  Why waste it?
>
> 73,
>
> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>
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