Topband: Fw: raised radials

Robert King w3gh73 at verizon.net
Sun Dec 16 12:10:04 EST 2012


Subject: Re: Topband: raised radials


> All the years I have been on top band,  I can't recall ever  hearing or 
> working him - DXing on Contesting.  With all his hardware on 160, surely 
> sometime his presence would be evident other than the reflector... Anyone 
> else?
>
> Merry Christmas to all.
>
> 73 Bob W3GH
>
>
> Subject: Re: Topband: raised radials
>
>
> AMEN Tom, He Just is like the "Energizer Bunny". He keeps going on and on 
> and
> on.
>
> 73 and Happy Holidays Price W0RI
>
>
>> Or the person on here who went from an extensive radial system to a full 
>> screen
>>claimed a 5dB improvement but now denys the possibility. Its in the TB 
>>archives
>>from 1998.
>
> Carl,
>
> Please try to stop that silly disappointing long-time practice of 
> re-writing
> what other people say just to start a fight.
>
> I ****NEVER**** said I didn't measure a 5 dB change, or that some system 
> changes
> can't produce a 5 dB (or even a 30 dB) change when someone does something
> terribly wrong in a system. What I am saying is:
>
> 1.) Your claim you felt you had a ~10 dB change, based on your feelings of 
> how
> much a signal must change busting a pileup, when you added some screen to 
> a
> system is pretty silly. It is a test at least days apart on sky wave with 
> no
> data reference at all. It is typical junk science of the worse kind. If 
> your
> original ground system did not have severe issues, the imagined "10 dB" 
> would be
> impossible.
>
> 2.) Broadcast stations use a screen as a connection point and mechanical
> convenience, NOT to improve signal or effiency. The screen allows people 
> to walk
> near the tower base without falling over wires, and it allows connecting 
> boxes,
> fences, posts, and other things into the radials no matter where they are
> located near the base. They also usually use stone at the base, and
> weedkiller...so we can't assume everything they do is for "signal 
> reasons".
>
> If you take some time to read FCC guidelines, the screen is actually 
> optional.
> If you read Lewis, Brown, and Epstein, instead of misreading Topband 
> archives,
> you will see they ALSO said the screen does not when a adequate number and
> length of radials is present.
>
> Please stop the silly childish misrepresentations.
>
> 73 Tom
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