Topband: Radials help

donovanf at starpower.net donovanf at starpower.net
Fri Feb 10 10:50:19 PST 2012


Not enough room for towers and radials?  Antennas aren't big enough?

Here's an employment opportunity to work on ELF antennas at the 2 megawatt U.S. Navy NAA transmitter in sunny, warm Cutler, Maine.

https://applicationmanager.gov/Questionnaire.aspx?ID=4313317&PreviewType=Questionnaire

http://www.navy-radio.com/commsta/cutler.htm

73
Frank
W3LPL

---- Original message ----
>Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:34:05 -0500
>From: Eddy Swynar <deswynar at xplornet.ca>  
>Subject: Re: Topband: Radials help  
>To: Guy Olinger K2AV <olinger at bellsouth.net>
>Cc: topband at contesting.com, herbs at vitelcom.net
>
>
>On 2012-02-10, at 1:21 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>
>> If any of you think an insulated radial field can just plopped down based on a formula on just any plot of land and be efficient, think again. All that is necessary to be abysmally INefficient is for the construction ground fill underneath your sod to be variable in composition, or contain metallic pipes or buried wires or a septic system.  In this case your radials are no longer ELECTRICALLY dense and uniform, current distribution becomes wacky, effectively removing radials from the system, and the radial system has become an unbalanced ground heater, and quite inferior to an elevated counterpoise. (Sound familiar?)
>> 
>
>Hi Guy,
>
>All this talk about "idealized" radial systems, vs. "compromised" radial fields, hearkens me back to the words of an old Rolling Stones song, to whit:
>
>"You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you just might find you get what you need." 
>
>I'll never have the proverbial "120 full-length radials" here (what I may want), so I'll just have to make do with my 24 one-eighth wave compromises (what I need---certainly better than no radials at all! Hi).
>
>~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>
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