Topband: It is not so much propagation

[ZR]

Far from clever, the typical QRPer has crappy antennas on any band and are 
mostly just an annoyance on 160 after dark.

OTOH Ive QRP DXCC from 160-10M but the antennas did most of the work.
Im also up to 17 countries on 160 with 100 milliwatts.

I havent had any interest in WAS or working other QRPers.

Carl
KM1H



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chortek, Robert L" <Robert.Chortek at berliner.com>
To: "ZR" <zr at jeremy.mv.com>
Cc: "Jim F." <j_fitton at yahoo.com>; <Topband at contesting.com>; "Milt -- N5IA" 
<n5ia at zia-connection.com>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation


>I think the idea is that a qrp station might not be heard by a station so 
>weak the qrp station needs a beverage to hear him.
>
> Of course, one could describe circumstances where that would be true and 
> others where it would not be true.
>
> I thought it was clever....
>
> 73
>
> Bob/AA6VB
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:38 PM, "ZR" <zr at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
>
>> That makes absolutely no sense when at the edge of reception.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jim F." <j_fitton at yahoo.com>
>> To: "Milt -- N5IA" <n5ia at zia-connection.com>
>> Cc: <Topband at contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
>>
>>
>> QRPers generally do not need Beverages as much as other stations
>> do.
>>
>> Think about that one for awhile.
>>
>> jim / W1FMR
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 3/19/12, Milt -- N5IA <n5ia at zia-connection.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Milt -- N5IA <n5ia at zia-connection.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Topband: It is not so much propagation
>>> To:
>>> Cc: Topband at contesting.com
>>> Date: Monday, March 19, 2012, 2:23 PM
>>> Beverages do NOT make lightning
>>> caused static crashes go away. They can
>>> significantly reduce the received level of the crashes from
>>> the directions
>>> different from the listening direction.
>>>
>>> However, in the listening direction Beverages will actually
>>> "clear up" the
>>> crashes being heard from that direction. In other
>>> words, those crashes will
>>> become the predominant ones you hear with the exception of
>>> those caused by
>>> local storms.
>>>
>>> The crashes from the listening direction will not be as
>>> strong as they will
>>> be when listening on the TX antenna.
>>>
>>> The points I am trying to make are:
>>>
>>> 1. Beverages work VERY well.
>>>
>>> 2. Beverages will NOT eliminate all static crashes.
>>>
>>> 3. There is no silver bullet, but Beverages are about
>>> as close to the
>>> perfect solution as you can get.
>>>
>>> 4. There is NO substitute for acreage. I
>>> sincerely wish everyone had the
>>> capability of installing Beverages. But that wish is
>>> no different than my
>>> wish that we all had our TX antennas at the edge of a salty
>>> ocean beach.
>>> So, we live with what we have.
>>>
>>> Mis dos centavos,
>>>
>>> de Milt, N5IA
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: Guy Olinger K2AV
>>> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 8:19 AM
>>>
>>> Only if they have space for them.
>>>
>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:59 AM, K4OWR <k2owr at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> :::: When I switch to my beverage antenna the noise pretty
>>> much goes to
>>> almost nothing.
>>> Don't most serious operators have one....or more???
>>> BILL K4OWR
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> On 3/19/2012 10:22 AM, N7DF wrote:
>>>
>>> During the summer the storm static is the main obstacle to
>>> top band
>>> operation here 40 over nine crashes every
>>> 30 seconds kind of drown out
>>> everything, QRP or QRO
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
>>>
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