Topband: November 30-December 2 -- ARRL 160 Meter Contest

Pete Smith N4ZR n4zr at contesting.com
Fri Nov 30 16:41:01 EST 2012


K1KI, W3TOM, N6AA, N6VI, W6RGG, and K9JF are the active contesters I 
noticed in a quick look at the ARRL Directors and Vice Directors.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/30/2012 9:47 AM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote:
> Eddy,
>
> I heard back from a few CAC members that said they are only "tasked" 
> by  HQ employees who determine  certain issues passed down to the CAC  
> by HQ.  Which means that the motto "of, for, and by the amateur radio 
> operator"  may have been replaced as well. They recommended writing 
> the regional directors redress my grievance few if any are active in 
> contests.
>
> Herb, KV4FZ
>
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2012 10:07 AM, Eddy Swynar wrote:
>> On 2012-11-29, at 6:15 PM, Herb Schoenbohm wrote:
>>
>>> Again this weekend the ARRL presents the worst and most unfair 160 
>>> meter competition ever devised.  I must sound like a broken record 
>>> on this problem but I have sent letters and e mail to members of the 
>>> CAC to asked them to allow the US Territories to be what they are 
>>> "DX" as it is impossible to even get listed for an effort that if I 
>>> was treat like VP2V which I can see from my house, I would at least 
>>> have a chance, in fact i would have come in first lace in the past 
>>> few years as a DX station.  The CAC, the few who will write me back, 
>>> say that any changes to rectify a totally unfair contest, is out of 
>>> their hands and decided by a special secretive group inside the 
>>> ARRL, who are not contesters at all. BTW for the purpose of this 
>>> contest KP2 is counted the same as Navassa and Puerto Rico counts as 
>>> Desecheo. Now how is that for a totally nonsensical approach.  Maybe 
>>> you could demand Navassa credit on 160 after working me, but I 
>>> really doubt that the DX desk will be amused.  I
> n
>>    the Pacific, Guam and Hawaii all count the same as KH8 and KH8S in 
>> the vast Pacific region thousands of miles apart.  None have even a 
>> chance to do well with the decks stacked against them.  So they just 
>> don't participate at all.
>>> I had thought that in protest this year I would phase my Beverages 
>>> on Europe and only listen to help out those who need the Virgin 
>>> islands on 160.  Yet out of my concern for showing good 
>>> sportsmanship I will work anyone I can hear.  But there is a request 
>>> I have in return:  If I work you and give you the rare VI section, 
>>> please take a few minutes after the contest to send an E mail to 
>>> your division Director and copy the members of the CAC about fixing 
>>> this long lingering unfairness.  The E mail addresses are available 
>>> on the ARRL website.  The message is simple DX must be counted as DX 
>>> as the VI, PR and all the other U.S. Territories are in their other 
>>> DX contests.
>>>
>>> Also Gary, KD9SV has a great write up in QST but only is given two 
>>> pages and can't mention the efforts of only a few east coast big 
>>> guns.  No matter how hard I try there is no way a station outside of 
>>> the 48 states can even get mentioned.  ARRL Field Day has a write up 
>>> that is 13 pages long.  So one can think that 160 meters is still an 
>>> after thought and those I try to reach out to at HQ really don't 
>>> care.  Maybe i should get a bigger thrill out of working someone in 
>>> SJV or SB or whatever but DX is DX and if the ARRL whats to have a 
>>> 160 meter DX contest, this is not a good example of one.  It never 
>>> has been.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Good luck and I will reluctantly see you in the contest.
>>
>>
>> Hi Herb,
>>
>> Your note reminded me of last year, when both you and (I believe) 
>> Frank---V01HP---expressed frustration with the Contest Advisory 
>> Committee at the ARRL...
>>
>> At that time, I established a dialogue with one of the committee 
>> members who was situated in western Canada: as I recall, Frank had 
>> success in expressing his concerns to him, but I don't recall the 
>> outcome of your efforts. Did you, in fact, make a connection to the 
>> CAC through that particular window of opportunity...?
>>
>> If, in fact, you did establish contact with the liaison, it surprises 
>> me that the ARRL has been so inactive in addressing your concerns 
>> this way...in fact, it is a MAJOR disappointment, in light of past 
>> performance on their part years ago.
>>
>> ~73~ de Eddy VE3CUI - VE3XZ
>>
>> PS: I am wondering now how Frank made-out with his concerns...? Are 
>> you reading this, Frank...?
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