Topband: TB digital

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

 > I think everyone agrees it isn't in the right place.  But
 > having said that, where should it go?

While JT65 and PSK operation may not be where you would prefer
to place them, the US "digital" bandplan is completely useless
in much of the rest of the world.  In the most basic terms,
digital modes have as much right to a spectrum that is common
to all three regions and the majority if different national
regulations/allocations as any other mode.

While we may not agree with the IARU Region 1 bandplan, it is
the only attempt that provides some basic uniformity.  I might
argue that the Region 1 bandplan allocated far too much space
for SSB but it also tends to reflect realities with SSB activity
starting at 1840 KHz (or lower) in most of the world - and that's
not something that is going to change since it hasn't changed in
30 years or more.

Given the realities of SSB operation starting at 1840 KHz, 1838
- 1838 to 1840 for JT65 is not exactly unreasonable.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 9/16/2012 11:44 PM, Mike Armstrong wrote:
> Jim, this topic IS about 160, no doubt about it.  I don't think
> anyone here has insulted or abused anyone. We are discussing a very
> valid subject and it has nothing to do with who is bigger than who.
> It has to do with growth of activity on the band we all know and
> love.
>
> Tom has made some valid points, as has everyone else. The most
> important one being the placement, by someone's agreement of the digi
> subband.  I think everyone agrees it isn't in the right place.  But
> having said that, where should it go?  If anyone says digi doesn't
> belong on 160, THEN you might find some serious disagreement......
> Nobody is saying that.... I would know because I happen to be in
> favor of its being on 160, in particular.
>
> So where would you have is discuss a 160 topic?  What other forum,
> other than this one, addresses things about 160 and the
> modes/practices/standards thereon?
>
> Anyone here been insulted or demeaned by any comments?  I
> haven't...... Anyone else?  Anything been said that deserves a
> moderator to step in?  If so, I would like to know what it was so I
> can learn about the rules here...... Thanks
>
> Mike A (AB7ZU)
>
> Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka
>
> On Sep 16, 2012, at 19:16, wa3mej at comcast.net wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I was afraid this was going to turn into a yours is bigger than
>> mine.. geeze.. but at the risk of taking up space on Tree's
>> forum..,,,
>>
>>
>>
>> With all due respect the area that people work JT65 in now is due I
>> believe to IARU recommendations (or so I have been told) I have not
>> however verified that myself.  I can tell you that several foriegn
>> stations have said they can not work down low.
>>
>>
>>
>> Next one response said that he can copy better than signals better
>> than JT65. If he had said PSK I would agree with him however JT65
>> can copy signals that barely print on my screen and can not be
>> heard audibly.  If that is not the case then the person setting up
>> the system has it set up incorrectly which brings me up to the next
>> point.
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with much of what Tom W8JI has said.  He is both smart and
>> wise and he has noticed that many do not take the time to set up
>> their equipment correctly meaning they over drive the radio, use
>> radios that are old and not suitable or they have miswired the
>> system which leads to a totally crappy signal and interference to
>> others on the band both digital and CW.. oh  geeze  CW is digital
>> isnt it.. hummmm.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally,  you cant mean to tell me that the little bit of space
>> being used by digital at the top of the CW window causes a hardship
>> on anyone.. heck half of the time the SSB stations are even down
>> there and no one growls about that.. and wait until a SSB contest
>> you wont find an empty spot in the CW band.. so what is the beef
>> with 5 KHz or less being used, sometimes for a sound card digital
>> mode when much of the CW band is empty 75 percent of the time.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would suggest that we do take this discussion to another venue
>> less Tree moderates all of us..  It is ok to email me directly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> P.S. I do work CW  I dont hate it ya know.
>>
>>
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