Topband: gentlemen's band

Bert Barry bertbarry at xplornet.ca
Mon Mar 11 09:33:44 EDT 2013


Right on Mike,

About two or three years ago there was a distinct deterioration of 
operational courtesy on what had been known  as the Gentleman's Band.  
This was noted by an number of posts to this reflector. Again, there was 
an obvious explanation, although I don't recall it being mentioned.  The 
reason for the bad behavior was caused by the immigration of frustrated 
HF'ers to 160, which was then in great shape for DX.  The improvement 
over the next couple of years coincided with the (anemic) return of 
sunspots, which encouraged these migrants to return to their "home" bands.

However, there are still occasions of poor behavior.  In many cases this 
is purely accidental , such as this morning when, still half asleep, I 
sent my call two or three times on the frequency of 9M4SLL.  This was 
answered by a single gentlemanly "up", whereupon I 'silently stole 
away', feeling like a fool.  My embarassment was lessened a few minutes 
later by a much more prominent top-bander making the same mistake with 
the same courteous result.  No cacophony of  "up lid", "idiot", "cops 
QSY", etc. etc.

Bert,  VE3QAA

On 10/03/2013 2:19 PM, Mike Armstrong wrote:
> Guys, I think the explanation for why 160 (and the dx crowd on 80, too... not necessarily the 75 meter "throw a wire in the air rag chew crowd) are more gentlemanly (and ladies, of course) is very simple.  It is REALLY simple to explain:
>
> To put a decent signal out on those bands takes some very real effort.  Generally speaking you cannot "buy" your way to a great signal on those bands.... It takes thought and effort to be successful there.  Only the most dedicated of hams will even attempt it and those "dedicated hams" are gentlemen everywhere they operate.  Their dedication to the hobby being "the thing."
> The non-dedicated (lazy, if you will) hams don't even try to put a signal there.  Thus, those who don't appreciate the hobby (and what it is for or what it can do) are automatically excluded.  Those are usually the people whose manners are less than savory.
>
> I can hear the cries and gnashing of teeth already starting, so before it does:  I AM NOT SAYING that those who only operate the higher bands aren't dedicated or gentlemen!  There are numerous reasons for why an individual ham can or simply desires to operate the higher bands exclusively..... One being property limitations, obviously!  Inability to get sufficient free time, at night, to operate those bands for DX would be another rather obvious reason.  Thus, the 160 crowd seems to be a somewhat older group of people (read that: retired).
>
> What I AM SAYING IS that those who make the attempt to put good signals on the low bands must be pretty dedicated because it does take such a terrific effort as compared to the higher bands.  A natural follow-on conclusion is that the lousy operators are generally lazy, don't appreciate the hobby to begin with and won't put out the effort involved in low band operation..... So, as I said above, they are almost always automatically excluded from the low band DX world.  It is like a natural filter.  But, like I said, that doesn't mean that ALL high band ops aren't gentlemen..... It just means that most, if not all, non-gentlemen will almost surely be high band only operators..... There are exceptions, but they are exceptions, not the rule.
>
> I guess the correlation is that "Gentlemen Hams" = "Dedicated Hams" no matter where they operate.... Same holds true the other way around in that "Dedicated Hams" = "Gentlemen Hams."  At least that has been MY experience over the last 50+ years of my personal ham operation.  Show me someone who isn't dedicated to this hobby and I can almost invariably count on the fact that they will be the ones who misbehave or don't care about whether they learn proper operating procedures..... They just don't care..... Again, you CANNOT be a "don't care" ham AND put out a worthy signal on 160/80.... I just don't think it is possible.  Well, maybe, but still you know what I mean.....
>
> When you add in the difficulties involved in just plain DXing on those two bands, the reasons for gentlemanly behavior become critical.  Contact throughput is pretty slow on those bands under the best of conditions.... Deep fades, high noise, you name it...... If you add misbehavior or rudeness to the mix, it is almost impossible to have successful DX contacts there, right?  So those who are simply selfish have a reason to display gentlemanly behavior there..... If for no other reason..... LOL.
>
> Lots of words.... And I said it was "simple" to explain.... LOL.... Sorry about that :)
>
>
> Take care and great DXing,
> Mike AB7ZU (who ALWAYS aspires to be a gentleman on any band)
>
> Kuhi no ka lima, hele no ka maka
>
> On Mar 9, 2013, at 19:26, "Mark Lunday" <mlunday at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Wonderful.  It restores my faith in the hobby when I hear this courteous and
>> professional behavior.
>>
>> Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of N7DF
>> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 6:31 AM
>> To: topband at contesting.com
>> Subject: Topband: gentlemen's band
>>
>> The TX5K SSB operation last night on 160 was a joy to listen to    everyone
>> stood by for the station being called and paid attention to the DX
>> operator's instructions  quite a contrast to some of the higher bands
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