A lot of hams on 160m have been similarly "shocked". :-) 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Niko Cimbur <ac6dd at yahoo.com> wrote: > > We were shocked to find that the existing 1/4 wl performed better than the > much taller [5/8 wave] Vertical. >