Topband: Fw: Modeling the proverbial "vertical on a beach"

[Charlie]

As long as this thread had been going on - perhaps  I should be down
shopping for real estate on the Outer Banks - but then I'd be more exposed
to hurricanes, washed-out roads and lost power!  J

 

73,

Charlie, K4OTV

 

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From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of pat
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 11:08 AM
To: topband at contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Fw: Modeling the proverbial "vertical on a beach"

 

 

 

 

I worked a yb long path from w8lt in the 80s through a pileup using 100
watts.  Antenna was a half square at 120 feet across the open end of Ohio
stadium.  Maybe being near a more conductive ground made your mobile antenna
more efficient.  Guess I'm not seeing any magic here. 

 

N8vw

 

>On August 15, 2014 9:31:25 AM EDT, k1fz < <mailto:k1fz at myfairpoint.net>
k1fz at myfairpoint.net> wrote:

>> 

>> 

>>>I think that  what is being suggested is, that if you have two

>>signals, one

>>> S9 and the other right at noise level. The salt water advantage

>shows

>>up

>>> more on the weak signal. Let us say both increase by 6db the S9

>>signal

>>> won't

>>> be noticed as louder, but the weak signal will now show clearly

>above

>>the

>>> noise, just like turning on a light. Even though BOTH have improved

>>by

>>> 6db.

>>> 73 Clive GM3POI ( by The Sea)

>> 

>>From my experiences, Jeff, and Clive have come very close to similar

>> 

>>Years ago after working VK6LK long path on 75 meters from the home 

>>station, and wondered if I could work him mobile.  I drove toward the 

>>boat launch area  in Belfast, Maine some three miles distant, he was 

>>not readable, but was "in there".  Backing the old 1998 Chevy pickup 

>>down to the waters edge, there he was, coming up, up out of the noise. 

>>Was careful not to make contact with the salt water, as the truck 

>>already had enough rust.

>Made

>>the

>>QSO with 100 watts as witnessed by Norm K8TVD who was on frequency.

>The

>> 

>>automatic antenna tuner was making corrections, but going a very short

> 

>>distance from the waters edge made a read/no read difference. Belfast 

>>bay does extend East from the boat launch location.

>> 

>>73

>>Bruce-K1FZ

>> 

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