Topband: Crimea DXCC status?

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Fri May 23 10:10:51 EDT 2014

Guys - this is not the place for political discussions like this.



On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at> wrote:

> Amen!
> I can't believe that K1ZZ can so blatantly ignore the DXCC Rules!
> Section 1, Rule 7:
> > 7. Any Amateur Radio operation should take place only with the
> > complete approval and understanding of appropriate administration
> > officials. In countries where amateurs are licensed in the normal
> > manner, credit may be claimed only for stations using regular
> > government-assigned call signs or portable call signs where
> > reciprocal agreements exist or the host government has so authorized
> > portable operation.
> As far as international norms of civilized nations - including the
> US, all of the EU, UN and particularly the ITU - are concerned the
> appropriate administration for Crimea is in Kiev not some goons in
> Moscow issuing UA6S and UA6K callsigns.  UA6S and UA6K are *pirate*
> operations and should be rejected by DXCC just as 7O calls issued
> in Aden and other "licenses" issued by the wrong "authorities" have
> been routinely rejected.
> K1ZZ's decision to ignore the DXCC rules for political reasons (in
> opposition to UN resolutions and US policy) is as bad as Baldwin's Reef
> and makes it *impossible* for DXCC to fairly reject *any* DX operation
> for "improper documentation" as long as the flouting of the DXCC rules
> continues.
> I wonder how K1ZZ would react if Havana were to start issuing licenses
> to ethnic Cubans in Miami?  The proportion of the population in Miami
> that are ethnic Cubans may be higher than that of ethnic Russians in
> Crimea.
> 73,
>    ... Joe, W4TV
> On 2014-05-22 10:28 PM, Yuri Blanarovich wrote:
>>  From the ARRL  Letter:ARRL Responds to Ukrainian Amateur Radio League
>> Regarding DXCC Status of Crimea
>> The ARRL has responded to an appeal from the Ukrainian Amateur Radio
>> League (UARL) to "consider the information regarding the status of
>> Crimea as temporarily occupied territory." UARL President Vladimir
>> Grishchenko, UT0FT, told the ARRL on May 3, that Russia's "illegal
>> annexation" of Crimea "does not change the status of this territory,
>> which legally belongs to Ukraine." ARRL CEO David Sumner, K1ZZ, on May
>> 21 acknowledged the UARL's position and reiterated the ARRL Awards
>> Committee's determination that the annexation did not lend Crimea status
>> as a new DXCC entity.
>> "We appreciate the high regard you have expressed for the DXCC program,"
>> Sumner wrote. "However, the list of DXCC entities is simply for the
>> purpose of giving radio amateurs a consistent way to compare their DX
>> achievements. It is not intended to express a position with respect to
>> sovereignty and should not be regarded as such."
>> The Awards Committee has concluded that a QSL with a call sign issued by
>> Ukraine and showing the entity name as Ukraine counts as Ukraine, while
>> a QSL with a call sign issued by Russia and showing the entity name as
>> Russia counts as Russia. "A QSL that satisfies neither condition does
>> not count for either entity," the committee said.
>> Grishchenko had pointed out that the UN does not recognize Crimea's
>> annexation, and that the US government is "currently working actively to
>> preserve the territorial integrity of Ukraine." He further asserted
>> that, according to the International Telecommunication Union (ITU),
>> Ukraine is responsible for spectrum usage in Crimea, and that only
>> Ukraine can issue licenses, despite what he called Crimea's "temporary"
>> status as an occupied territory.
>> Grishchenko had asked the ARRL to consider this information when
>> determining "the conditions of meeting award requirements, as well as in
>> determining the winners of competitions held."
>> Sumner told Grishchenko that the ARRL Awards Committee's determination
>> "is consistent with the treatment, for DXCC purposes, of other territory
>> that may be described as either 'temporarily occupied' or disputed."
>> "We join the world community in the hope that the difficulties and
>> uncertainties currently being faced by the people of Ukraine will be
>> resolved peacefully and with full regard for human rights," Sumner
>> concluded.
>> (end of quote)
>> Unprecedented, ARRL legitimizing Russian occupation of Ukrainian
>> territory.
>> Now can South Korea "issue" licenses for North Korea too?
>> Looks like Putin has some power over ARRL.
>> Until situation is resolved politically, ARRL has no business
>> legitimizing "annexation" of Crimea by masked thugs.
>> Yuri, K3BU
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