Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff

[donovanf at starpower.net]

Hi Greg, 

I've never seen a rated holding strength for Guy-Grips (the type used on 
wood poles). Big Grips are rated at 6650 pounds holding strength. 
Big Grips are two inches longer than Guy Grips. 

The manufacturer says: 

"Guy-Grip Dead-ends are intended for use on single wood poles associated 
with distribution construction." 

and: 

"Big-Grip Dead-ends are designed for use on Transmission, Antenna, 
Communications, and other types of guyed structures that require use 
of large guy strand." 

73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Greg" <n4cc at windstream.net> 
To: donovanf at starpower.net 
Sent: Thursday, September 4, 2014 6:58:22 PM 
Subject: RE: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff 

Why is that, Frank? My understanding is that the preforms are stronger than 
the guy wire so I'm curious why feel that Big Grips are necessary? Thanks. 
73, Greg-N4CC 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of 
donovanf at starpower.net 
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 11:40 AM 
To: Bill Wichers 
Cc: Carl; topband at contesting.com 
Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff 

Tower guys should use Big Grips, not the performs used by electric 
utilities. You can purchase Big Grips from Texas Towers and many other 
suppliers 

73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Bill Wichers <billw at waveform.net> 
To: Carl <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>, topband at contesting.com 
Sent: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 13:31:07 -0400 (EDT) 
Subject: Re: Topband: WTB: Guy wire stuff 

If you only need a few like this, try calling some of the utility 
contractors in your area. They will always have the dead ends and the guys 
that also do the power work will also have the insulators. They will 
probably be able to sell you a few without too much trouble. 

BTW, the utility guys will usually call the "dead ends" "preforms" 
(different industry, different terminology :-), but they are the same thing. 
The telco/cable guys use 1/4" EHS strand for a support line for their cables 
so they will always have hardware for that. The preforms are cheap enough 
from the crew's perspective that they are occasionally used as temporary 
"twist ties" to hole up cable prior to lashing. 

You can order the stuff from Graybar too (probably the telecom division, but 
the power division can get stuff too), but I don't know about their prices. 
I've only ever ordered by the carton at work. 

-Bill 

> What I need is: 
> 
> Up to 12 502 guy insulators 
> Up to 18 1/4" deadends/guy grips 
> 
> Individually prices from dealers is ridiculous and I dont need case 
loads as I > bought when building the other 3 towers in 90-91 and wound 
up giving away > what I didnt use. 
> 
> Any help appreciated. 
> 
> Carl 
> KM1H 
> 
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