Topband: 160m LP to LP DX contacts in 2015

[Robert Harmon]

Herb,

No one is questioning your qualifications or expertise Herb.  I am an 
engineer also.  The point
I attempted to get across is that it is in very poor taste for us to 
post on a public reflector negative
allegations about anyone in the amateur community whether we feel it is 
justified or not.  There are other constructive ways to deal with the 
issue off the reflector.  As our moderator just posted this is not the 
type of message this forum is for.
I hope you understand my intent.  Please forgive me if I ruffled your 
feathers !  I am planning a 160M vertical with elevated radials and will 
be asking for some guidance on the reflector.  I would like your advice too.


73,
Bob
K6UJ



On 12/17/15 8:12 AM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote:
> Bob. I am a broadcast engineer and very capable of measuring 
> ground-wave signals. The FCC does exactly that where issuing citations 
> for pre-dawn AM broadcast stations who are licensed for QRP and 
> actually running QRO. This method has been used for many years.
> Ground wave measurement lack the variables you speak of.  Actually my 
> post was in sorts complimentary to KP4KE's "magic 160 meter antenna"  
> which should in fact if it works this way should be published in the 
> Proceedings of the IEEE, don't you think?
>
>
> Herb, KV4FZ
>
> On 12/17/2015 11:48 AM, Robert Harmon wrote:
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>> Herb,
>>
>> Herb,
>>
>> In order for us to respond to your allegations you will need to 
>> provide support evidence.  We will need details on his actual antenna 
>> configuration, was he using a counterpoise of some sort, is he on a 
>> hill,  how close is he to the water ?  Do you have proof that he was 
>> running more than 5 watts ?
>> Comparing his results to your test is meaningless, there are too many 
>> variables to consider.
>> You have the burden of proof.  Either provide factual evidence to 
>> support your allegations or give
>> KP4KE an apology for potentially damaging his reputation.
>>
>> Bob
>> K6UJ
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/17/15 5:38 AM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote:
>>> Well not to appear to be entirely disputatious we should carefully 
>>> consider KP4KE CQ WW 160 meter QRP entry in 2005 which he said he 
>>> accomplished with 4.7 watts to a "magical antenna" which he called a 
>>> "double bazooka" at 60 feet both for RX and TX.  While claiming to 
>>> work 42 countries with this magical antenna (which is actually a low 
>>> dipole) in a few hours of operating, I thought I would try and see 
>>> what 5 watts could actually in fact really do on TB. Using a 1/4 
>>> wave vertical and 12 Beverages a few weeks later, and many days 
>>> after that when the band conditions where hot, I called CQ for 4 
>>> hours each night without a single reply.  During this contest I 
>>> recall hearing NP4A and Pedro's great set up running full power, and 
>>> very high dipole at 200' and the signals were always the same on 160 
>>> at my location. So either KP4KE has a "magic antenna" or his "QRP" 
>>> entry in the CQ WW 160 meter QRP category totally lacked credulity.
>>>
>>> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2005     KP4KE     SO QRP 160M     37,345     364/13/42
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2015 7:56 AM, Michel Spelier wrote:
>>>> The title was changed to better describe the original question.
>>>> This topband newcomer asked what had happened to the topband 
>>>> conditions, given
>>>> the rare intercontinental Low Power to Low Power CW QSO’s,
>>>> even when riding upon sun propagation enhancements, as noted in 
>>>> this log, during
>>>> the last 6 or 7 winter topband contests.
>>>> (the last 3 years = topband newcomer)
>>>>
>>>> (snip)
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Michel, ON7EH
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