Topband: Foreign stns using NA remotes for K1N

[Herbert Schoenbohm]

Unfortunately there are so many free tools online like Tor Bundle and 
Vidalia Onion (torproject.org) available that provides you an your IP 
adress by providing anonymity or many hundred of different locations you 
wish to *appear* to be originating from.  This service was also to 
provide a degree of freedom for persons blogging from totalitarian 
countries from retaliation by repressive governments.

I also agree with Tom that the saga made out of the "aggressive 
calling",( a term that KH6IJ, Nose coined and once sent me a letter 
admonishing me for continuously calling him to work my first KH6 on TB 
over a half century ago) that under the circumstances way to much was 
made out of nothing.  George AA7JV should be on island today with 
specialized antennas.  If he can't work real JA's from Navassa then I am 
not sure anyone else there could.  If there is a SW skew opening to JA 
he will work hundreds on 160 that a really in Japan.



Herb, KV4FZ


On 2/4/2015 5:23 PM, Tom W8JI wrote:
>> Dave - you are correct. That very statement was rather boldly made by a
>> prominent 160 meter person right here.
>
> That was me. It was a statement of fact.
>
> RHR requires a log in name, password, and they watch IPs. After some 
> early abuse, they started checking to be sure the name and password 
> come from the same IP or IP pool as the user name and password combo. 
> When it is a foreign user, of which there are a limited number, the 
> traffic is watched.
>
> It is highly unlikely someone used RHR, unless Dave knows of some flaw 
> in the system. If Dave does, or if you do Joel, you should do 
> something constructive and point out the flaw.
>
>> At the time I thought about
>> throwing the flag on that one but decided, then, not to. I know the 
>> remote
>> folks can track ISP addresses of those connected but do not know how 
>> they
>> can verify a station outside the country where the remote is located is
>> identifying correctly and lawfully.
>>
>
> RHR is getting the heat here when, factually, Dave probably hasn't the 
> faintest idea who or what was being used and/or where the station was 
> coming from.
>
> This is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Someone makes a doomsday 
> prediction. Hearing something funny, the conclusion is it had to be 
> via RHR. Then Joel decides if Dave said it, it must be right. W8JI has 
> to be wrong, because Dave knows more about RHR procedures and can 
> monitor the system better then Tom can, looking at site operation data.
>
> :-)
>
> We are not only so clairvoyant as a group that we know everything that 
> happened with ZM enough to publically lynch him, we now are such 
> experts on remote radio we know what system it came from.
>
>
>> So, I'll make a bold statement here....The remote folks don't care and
>> will not control it as long as the $$$$ are flowing in. Money talks and
>> the rules can go to hell.
>
> What a bizarre statement!
>
>> Am I wrong?? Then prove me wrong and let's see some hammering down on 
>> this
>> by the remote folks.
>
> Unfortunately, no one can correct what is in someone else's 
> imagination or opinion. Facts will never overcome good old fashioned 
> emotional-driven opinions.
>
> 73 Tom
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