Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

[Herbert Schoenbohm]

As Tree pointed out that the Stew Perry event was produced by a small 
group of people and thus bypasses the bureaucratic conflagrations 
inherent to to committees that lack vision.  However Tree forgot to add 
that the Stew Perry probably the best topband contest existing today and 
is increasing in vast popularity giving even fine opportunities to low 
power and QRP stations.  My point is since as proven such a setup can 
produce such an excellent event that it would seem to be relatively easy 
for a contest be formed with wide latitude of inclusion to those who 
have used the advance technology of a remote SDR receiver away from the 
local killer noises and other QRM and QRN could be a real success story 
and thus would advance certain tecnological aspects of the hobby.


Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
On 1/29/2015 12:30 PM, Tree wrote:
> This is certainly a complex issue.  I see two worlds colliding here:
> 160 meter DXing - and Radiosporting.
>
> I have myself seriously considered using a remote receiving location
> to get rid of local noise.  I had a severe QRN issue with 500KV power
> lines when I first appeared on the band in Oregon back in 1985.  When
> it was wet outside - my S-meter was sitting around S9+40 db when on AM
> mode.
>
> However, Tom's point about enabling full duplex operation is a game
> changer from a radio sporting perspective.
>
> Some stations have enough real estate to implement full duplex for
> contest operation (including mine) and it is a significant competitive
> advantage.  Certainly - implementing a remote station for RX purposes
> that is not too far away (< 100 miles) can achieve similar results.  I
> guess the question is - should having enough acreage to implement full
> duplex operation be considered the same as using a remote receiver for
> radios porting purposes?   This is obviously one of those gray area
> issues - where your perspective will have a lot to do with your
> feelings on the subject.  Part of the process of hashing this out is
> the discussion in places like this mail list.
>
> The Stew Perry contest enjoys a certain amount of freedom as it is
> administered by a small group of people (about two) - and isn't
> considered a "serious" contest.  More like a pleasant operating event.
> We have voted in this matter by allowing remote receivers as long as
> they are within 100 km of your transmit location.  This enabled at
> least one Southern Hemisphere station to take part in the event and
> felt like the right thing to do.
>
> However, I can see that the answer might be different for the CQ 160
> contest - or even in the CQ WW contest.  These are more serious
> sporting events.
>
> Tree N6TR
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Tom Haavisto <kamham69 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So one can use their favorite SDR remote to enjoy the contest, and you can
>>> submit the score it to 3830. The downside is that the contest sponsor does
>>> not have a contest class that accepts the remote RX arrangement.
>>>
>>> The real issue is to persuade the contest organizers to allow that in some
>>> contest class. Good luck on that. Organizers have always been WAY behind
>>> the technological possibilities, most likely because certain advancements
>>> give such a large advantage to someone who is able to construct them. On
>>> 160 meters, the MAJORITY of contest entrants would describe their location
>>> as noisy.
>>>
>>> 73, Guy.
>>>
>> I would urge caution before we start asking contest sponsors to allow
>> remote RX sites.  There are some lucky folks where noise is not a huge
>> issue.  Consider what I could do with a remote RX site - aways from the TX
>> hash, essentially being able to run full duplex.  To me, this is a pretty
>> serious game changer.  I do understand the advantages, and how it could
>> help someone who lives in a noisy location.  But - be careful of granting
>> an advantage to folks who are blessed without that issue.
>>
>> Tom - VE3CX
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