Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

[Milt -- N5IA]

Tom,

Thank you for a very well thought out and expressed opinion that mirrors my 
thinking on the subject.

As tom has expressed re his station, I also have constructed the NI5T/N5BG 
station for full duplex operation on 160 M.  We are able to use the mult 
stations within approximately 15 kHz of the run station with full legal 
power in most RX azimuth selections.  With LP the spread drops to about +- 7 
kHz.  At QRP it is down to just a bit more than a kHz; similar to a BIG GUN 
station within a couple of hundred miles.

I have run full duplex many years when operating QRP in the SPDC.

So, the concept is not new; it is just now readily available with a 
different set of tools.

I am in agreement that remote listening sites for 160 M contests, ala SPDC, 
is the correct direction to go.  It will enhance the capability of many 
stations who will put out the effort to do so.  Result; more activity and 
more stations to work.  And that is what it is all about.

I suggest a 100 km radius as the limit for deployment of a RX site which 
would be legal in the 160 M contests.  Grid Squares are rectangular, vary in 
size according to latitude, and limits the capability if your TX location is 
near the edge of a GS.  The 200 km diameter circle drawn around the TX 
location IMHO would be a very good selection.

Mis dos centavos.

Milt, N5IA, and sometimes operator of fully remoted N7GP
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Tom W8JI
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 11:52 AM
To: TopBand List
Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

Organized RR sites are not an issue.

Remote Radio does not allow new DX members, although a few are grandfathered
in before that policy started. Those few who are members are watched, and
any operating without signing W? / DXcall, or using a receiver in a contest
(which costs $.49 per minute), are banned from future use of RR.

You have to be in the 48, or you have to use portable, or you are banned.

This is absolutely no different than anything that ever went on since the
ARRL and others began allowing DX contacts to count no matter where you
operate or where you move in the USA. Many people have operated here as a
guest, for example, and worked new countries or worked contests under their
calls, and counted the countries. The ONLY difference between them logging
in via link and operating, or driving here and operating, is the physical
transportation time.

If we don't like that as a collective group, the thing that needs changed is
taking DXCC and other credits with us when we move or when we operate at
another site.

As for duplex, I can pretty much duplex here on 160 in most directions and
in any direction at any signal spacing on higher bands. For example, I can
receive noise floor Europeans on 40 meters just 10 kHz below or 5 kHz above
the SSB transmitter with virtually no interference. Allowing remote
receivers within a small distance would not affect large stations at all. It
would only let some limited resource stations have more fun. In my view,
complaining about letting someone work around local noise with a remote
local receiver is nothing but sour grapes.

DXCC and other things (like ANY contest) will never be fair or level between
stations. It always has been that way, it always will be that way. No matter
what the rules, a few with a "disadvantage" will not like the way it is, and
a few with an advantage will not want a change.

One example is keeping DXCC when someone moves from one coast to another. I
remember when W2EQS/W9NFC had to start his 160 DXCC over from zero from
Indiana because he moved from NJ to Indiana. Today, he could move from
California to Maine and keep his totals.

The important thing is to not make imaginary problems where none exist, and
to understand how things really work before suggesting changes.

73 Tom




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