Topband: Salt-Water QTH

[HVT]

I should have been more specific, the airport is several miles away.

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> On May 8, 2015, at 6:25 PM, <n0tt1 at juno.com> <n0tt1 at juno.com> wrote:
> 
> No issues with a tall 160m near the airport?  I have both
> here and had to get a permit from the FAA.  My tower
> is now on their air nav charts!  :D)
> 
> 73,
> Charlie, N0TT
> 
> On Fri, 8 May 2015 17:58:30 -0400 "Ray Higgins (W2RE)"
> <w2re at hudsonvalleytowers.com> writes:
>> Update:
>> 
>> Thanks to all the input and suggestions regarding my Salt-Water QTH 
>> post on April 1. Your input was very valuable in making the final 
>> decision. We had several options to choose from, since land is 
>> readily available in Maine. After some debate with my partners on 
>> the venture, we decided to pull the trigger on the 60+ Acre parcel 
>> with a small home,  3000’ x 1000’  lot, located on the Ocean near 
>> the most northeast corner of the state of Maine and Ideally nearby a 
>> small airport which will be the method of traveling via a single 
>> engine aircraft. The deal went into contract today and we hope to 
>> start breaking ground sometime in June/July. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ray 
>> W2RE.com
>> 
>> 
>> To:        topband at contesting.com
>> Subject:        Topband: Salt-Water Qth!
>> From:        HVT <w2re at hudsonvalleytowers.com>
>> Date:        Wed, 1 Apr 2015 07:47:23 -0400
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>> This is my first post to the Top-Band Reflector, so please excuse my 
>> ignorance 
>> if this topic has been discussed in the past. 
>> 
>> Is there any scientific data in print to prove the theory that ocean 
>> front 
>> property is better than a location inland about a mile or so on a 
>> ridge 
>> overlooking salt water for HF. I had this heated debate over the 
>> weekend with 
>> two ham friends of mine while we traveled to Maine looking at 
>> real-estate along 
>> the coast. I understand the theory that verticals literally in or on 
>> the water 
>> have a huge advantage. The debate was about how far away from the 
>> water does it 
>> become a diminishing effect. I made the claim that the Ocean-Front 
>> property 
>> would be a better location than anything inland including a location 
>> on a ridge 
>> within a mile. This heated debate went on for about 500 miles while 
>> we were 
>> driving back to NY. It was a very interesting conversation and made 
>> the long 
>> drive back much quicker! :)
>> 
>> Additional information about the debate:
>> 
>> In the State of Maine there is a setback regulation on shoreline 
>> property 
>> regarding structures including radio towers. To play it safe with 
>> the shoreline 
>> protective rules, the proposed array system would be setback minimum 
>> 500’ from 
>> the water or as far back as 2000'. At these distances on 80/160 
>> meter will a 
>> vertical antenna system see any positive effects with additional 
>> gain from the 
>> salt water? 
>> 
>> What about horizontal antennas? Do they see any effects from 
>> Salt-Water?
>> 
>> I'm sure I can use HFTA to model the terrain, which I have done in 
>> the past 
>> with great accuracy. However, I'm not sure if it calculates 
>> Salt-Water. Maybe 
>> it does. 
>> 
>> We are anxious to start building in Maine ASAP. Any input would be 
>> appreciated. 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ray W2RE
>> W2RE.com
>> 
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