Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 160, Issue 25

Mon Apr 25 12:49:36 EDT 2016

For what it is worth, I have a Pixel up and running and several 200 foot
terminated bogs. The Pixel is not a bad antenna but it will not beat a
properly cut and terminated BOG on 160M. My Pixel has been in operation for
2 years and the BOGS the same. The Pixel is mounted about 5 feet above the
ground and 200 feet away from the house. The BOGS use the DX engineering
termination units.

Mike
AB4KJ

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> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 09:55:42 -0400
> From: " K1FZ-Bruce " <k1fz at myfairpoint.net>
> To: Topband <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Topband: Pixel vs BOG
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> Mixed reviews.
> ?
> Pixel loop antenna vs 200 foot BOG antenna at ? VO1HP.??
> www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTXvcEwgUsU
> ?
> 73
> ?
> Bruce-k1fz
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> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:25:04 -0400
> From: Kenneth Grimm <grimm at sbc.edu>
> To: Bruce <k1fz at myfairpoint.net>
> Cc: Topband <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Pixel vs BOG
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> Wow!  The BOG blows the Pixel loop away.  The loop sounds like my
> vertical!  I wonder if there might be a feedline problem?  Surely the loop
> isn't meant to be that noisy.
>
> 73,
>
> Ken - K4XL
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, K1FZ-Bruce <k1fz at myfairpoint.net> wrote:
>
> > Mixed reviews.
> >
> > Pixel loop antenna vs 200 foot BOG antenna at   VO1HP.
> > www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTXvcEwgUsU
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Bruce-k1fz
> > www.qsl.net/k1fz/bogantennanotes/index.html
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 15:31:30 +0000
> From: "Chortek, Robert L." <Robert.Chortek at berliner.com>
> To: Kenneth Grimm <grimm at sbc.edu>
> Cc: Bruce <k1fz at myfairpoint.net>, Topband <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Pixel vs BOG
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> It was not clear the loop was rotated to null the noise.  IF SO, that's a
> BIG improvement in SN
>
> Bob AA6VB
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> > On Apr 25, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Kenneth Grimm <grimm at sbc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > Wow!  The BOG blows the Pixel loop away.  The loop sounds like my
> > vertical!  I wonder if there might be a feedline problem?  Surely the
> loop
> > isn't meant to be that noisy.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Ken - K4XL
> >
> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, K1FZ-Bruce <k1fz at myfairpoint.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Mixed reviews.
> >>
> >> Pixel loop antenna vs 200 foot BOG antenna at   VO1HP.
> >> www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTXvcEwgUsU
> >>
> >> 73
> >>
> >> Bruce-k1fz
> >> www.qsl.net/k1fz/bogantennanotes/index.html
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:38:08 -0400 (EDT)
> From: donovanf at starpower.net
> To: Topband <topband at contesting.com>
> Cc: Bruce <k1fz at myfairpoint.net>, Kenneth Grimm <grimm at sbc.edu>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Pixel vs BOG
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> Hi Ken,
>
>
> Small diameter "magnetic" loops such as the Pixel can be very
> effective in nulling a single vertically polarized local RFI source,
> fortunately most local RFI sources are vertically polarized. Their
> deep narrow beamwidth null is also very useful for determining the
> location of an RFI source.
>
>
> A small diameter loop provides no useful directivity for skywave
> propagated signals (such as the atmospheric noise in VO1HP's
> video) because the polarization of the incoming wave is constantly
> changing.
>
>
> 73
> Frank
> W3LPL
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Kenneth Grimm" <grimm at sbc.edu>
> To: "Bruce" <k1fz at myfairpoint.net>
> Cc: "Topband" <topband at contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 3:25:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Topband: Pixel vs BOG
>
> Wow! The BOG blows the Pixel loop away. The loop sounds like my
> vertical! I wonder if there might be a feedline problem? Surely the loop
> isn't meant to be that noisy.
>
> 73,
>
> Ken - K4XL
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, K1FZ-Bruce <k1fz at myfairpoint.net> wrote:
>
> > Mixed reviews.
> >
> > Pixel loop antenna vs 200 foot BOG antenna at VO1HP.
> > www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTXvcEwgUsU
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Bruce-k1fz
> > www.qsl.net/k1fz/bogantennanotes/index.html
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 10:45:22 -0500
> From: "David Harmon" <k6xyz at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'Kenneth Grimm'" <grimm at sbc.edu>,  "'Bruce'"
>         <k1fz at myfairpoint.net>
> Cc: "'Topband'" <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Pixel vs BOG
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> On the vid....he says the Pixel is 30' high.
> That is too high.
> My Pixel is nowhere near that noisy.
> It is 7' high located in the clear.
>
>
> 73
>
> David Harmon
> K6XYZ
> Sperry, OK
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces at contesting.com] On Behalf Of Kenneth
> Grimm
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 10:25 AM
> To: Bruce <k1fz at myfairpoint.net>
> Cc: Topband <topband at contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: Topband: Pixel vs BOG
>
> Wow!  The BOG blows the Pixel loop away.  The loop sounds like my vertical!
> I wonder if there might be a feedline problem?  Surely the loop isn't meant
> to be that noisy.
>
> 73,
>
> Ken - K4XL
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:55 AM, K1FZ-Bruce <k1fz at myfairpoint.net> wrote:
>
> > Mixed reviews.
> >
> > Pixel loop antenna vs 200 foot BOG antenna at   VO1HP.
> > www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTXvcEwgUsU
> >
> > 73
> >
> > Bruce-k1fz
> > www.qsl.net/k1fz/bogantennanotes/index.html
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