Topband: Top Band and JT65

[Joel Harrison]

Currently available DXCC awards are:
CW only DXCC
SSB only DXCC
Digital only DXCC

Then there is the "Mixed" DXCC award you can acquire that includes all modes.

So the segregation already exists if someone wants to take advantage of them.

A polite request to the reflector folks (unrelated to this specific post
from Mark) PLEASE identify yourself AND your CALLSIGN at the end of your
thread. Some folks just type their message and who they are in amateur
radio circles is not identified in their email address. Its a personal
thing. I just like to know who folks are. Thanks.

73 Joel W5ZN



> Well said Victor.
>
> I'm going to offend with this email no matter how nice I try to make it,
> but I am trying to not be inflammatory. Here goes....
>
> A human ear can not compete with a computer that extracts signals below
> the
> noise level.
>
> Being a software engineer my friends are somewhat amazed I have no
> interest
> in RTTY or the JT modes. A few years ago they got me to do some RTTY
> contests. Talk about boring. You set the computer up, spin the VFO to
> align
> vertical cursor and push the correct buttons. Ditto with PSK31 only using
> a
> waterfall display. Download the software, spin the VFO, and push the
> buttons. As I told my friend “Even a caveman can do this”.
>
> The JT modes certainly have their place as an advancement in
> communications
> technology and capability. But from a competition perspective, machine and
> human detected modes need to be strictly segregated.
>
> My hat's off to those that get DXCC on 160 via CW and SSB. Sorry, but the
> hat stays on for using digital to get “the last few”. Not crying over
> spilt
> milk here; I have my TB DXCC and none of it is the JT modes.
>
> The ARRL needs to address this, but I doubt they're going to. We've gotten
> to the point where single band awards need to be split between human and
> machine detected modes.
>
> As posters in other threads have noted, the JT modes on TB will enable
> those with limited real estate to work 160M DX easily. This is both a
> blessing and a curse (as the saying goes). Yes, they may be able to use
> the
> JT modes to “easily” work DX on 160, but compare them to the guys in the
> same situation that work TB DX on CW / SSB and take years to do it.
>
> 73 Mark K3MSB
>
> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 4:39 AM, Victor Goncharsky via Topband <
> topband at contesting.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Wrong.
>> Both in SSB and AM cases the operator's skills and abilities are
>> involved.
>> Even more of those are needed on CW.
>> On those JT modes an operator is just a computer accessory.
>>
>>
>> >Воскресенье, 14 мая 2017, 5:41 +03:00 от Mike va3mw <
>> va3mw at portcredit.net >:
>> >
>> >JT9 vs JT65 over CW
>> >
>> >The same conversation happened when SSB started to gain strength over
>> AM.
>> >
>> >73
>> >
>> >Mike va3mw
>> >
>>
>> --
>> 73, Victor Goncharsky US5WE/K1WE (UW5W in VHF contests, ex UB5WE), P.E.
>> UARL Technical and VHF Committies
>> DXCC Honor Roll #1 (Mixed, Phone), 9BDXCC, 8BWAS
>> DXCC card checker (160 meters).
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